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[–] [email protected] 60 points 11 months ago

I’d vote for a rutabaga if it was running against the orange sandwich

[–] [email protected] 44 points 11 months ago (4 children)

All the media have to do is cover Trump relatively honestly and he will do the rest to sink his presidential campaign.

In 2016 the media were so gaga over his norm breaking and other wackiness and everyone assumed Hillary was a sure thing compared to him, they didn't actually cover him honestly.

Plus he could let people just project whatever hopes and dreams they had on him. He had no governmental experience at any level to investigate and draw conclusions from. He convinced a lot of people that he would fight for them, and Hillary had no really solid counter to all that. Plus the DOJ threw the in-person voting to Trump.

This time we know basically all there is to know about what a second Trump term would be like. Chaos, petty revenge, and burning the Constitution. If Democrats can take that clear and the media can look past all the dollar signs for a second, any half decent candidate on the Democratic ticket will win. Any candidate who can legitimately claim to be for working people and against the elites.

So like a Sherrod Brown, Sheldon Whitehouse, John Fetterman, or Elizabeth Warren. I'd say Bernie but he's probably too old. Brown and Fetterman would do really well bringing large so called "purple" states in.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Trump is still polling within reach of a win, and that's after 4 years of President Trump, an attempted coup, and three more years of the criminal prosecutions that followed.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You forgot Trump's civil case where the judge clarified it was in fact rape.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Apparently, 40% of American voters would prefer to live in Russia.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

"look past all the dollar signs for a second"

We're doomed.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (10 children)

I love John Fetterman, but he did have a mild stroke and spent a month in treatment for depression while in office. He's great, but I don't think he is President material. I don't hold either of those things against him, and mental health is important, but no way do you convince the public that all is fine

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

I hope you're right. I was definitely one of those people who thought Hillary was a slam dunk and thought Trump would never win.

I've not been confident in an election cycle since. I want to be optimistic and say Trump will sink himself and that we will all have the satifaction of seeing his ass in prison. But, he has weasled his way out of every negative consequence in his life and survived political scandals that would have sunk any other politician.

The dude is a cult.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

I've never been so happy to be beaten to the punch.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This line was used to remove the plot armor from Luke and raise the stakes.

This is a bad omen.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I thought it was used to drop a random, unforeshadowed twist into the plot to resolve a love triangle with incest.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Taylor Swift slowly walks forward

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Funnily enough, I had this conversation with some friends that Taylor Swift would probably sweep the electoral college. Highly popular, progressive, white (to get a few of the Republican voters whose vote is base on the way their rep looks), and has a fan base that can potentially outmatch MAGA if her name was on the ballot.

Whether she would be a successful politician, on the other hand, can be cleared by the fact that we survived 4 years of Trump. So it can't be worse than that fiasco.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And then she'd make her turn to the right once she met the political machine's real force.

I'm categorically against rich people in high public offices.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

She's also a billionaire now and we all know what happens to billionaires...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

With John Stewart as VP. He said he doesn't want to be president but VP? Let's fuckin goooo

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

If it weren't real life I'd like to see that go down lmao.

It would also be hilarious to see Trump's reaction to being taken down by the Swifties.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If only she she were a year older

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I guess she'd be of age by inauguration?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Oh you're right, I was doing the math for election day, not inauguration day

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Fetterman from the top rope.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Obama: The Return of Hope?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Suddenly out of the shadows leaps Malia, dragonglass dagger in hand.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

One of the last things we need is another political empire built on nepotism and one's surname.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yes. It was just a joke.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And she offers up the whispered scream, "Am I that somebody?"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Oh and who is thi— ooh my god it’s the Undertaker

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

22nd Amendment says "nope!"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Oh, now we care about the law!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

How about Michelle then? Name recognition and more experience than Big Cheeto had when he took the job.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A six year old child should be able to defeat Trump. At least in all forms of debate and intelligence tests.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But could a six year old remember, "Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV"?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yes. And also be able to spell those things.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Bernie Sanders: "So you're saying there's a chance?"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

And he probably would have won too if the DNC didn't give him the absolute shaft because it was "Hillary's Time". Now we still see ourselves in the stupidity timelime

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

If he isn't I'd imagine it's a short list of other contenders that have the electoral width Biden can hypothetically pull from

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

The problem with someone like Dean is that time and time again, the average American has shown themselves to be embarrassingly uninformed when it comes to politics, and so the incumbent president has a huge advantage just by having their name be recognizable and their butt already in the chair.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Jeff Merkley, progressive 3-term senator who takes common sense positions even when controversial, e.g. calling for a ceasefire in Gaza weeks ago

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