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[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The Roman Historian Sallust once said "Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master"

I remember posting that quote on Facebook once probably about 12 years ago. An older guy I worked with at the time chimed in that he was one of the few and how important liberty was to him.

Few years later he was spewing Trump bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's to be expected for Christians (et al); a vast majority have been taught at a young age that the perfect society is one where a benevolent god makes all the decisions and you just shut up and do as you're told. It was never The People's Republic of Heaven; it's the Kingdom of Heaven.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That's because they all think they are the special individual that will be given special treatment and that all the bad things will happen to groups they don't like.

Because they are stupid.

That's why we got the famous direct quote: "He's not hurting the right ones".

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Rather than exist in a society where members of all ethnic groups have an opportunity for success, millions of American whites would approve of a dictatorship.

Ten million would restore Donald Trump to the presidency by force.

Recent polls show that Biden and Trump are tied in the presidential race even though Trump said he would suspend parts of the Constitution and construct an all-powerful executive branch with him as the head.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ain't it funny, those obsessed with freedom are willing to let someone control them if it means they "win"

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Later, once the tyranny starts to affect them: "Why did the liberals do this to me?"

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

LOL they'll eat a shit sandwich if they think a liberal has to smell it. Now we know they'll also wonder why the libs gave them a stomach ache after that sandwich.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My grandpa used to warn me: most people just want to be told what to do, it's easier for them.

It's easy to vote for one person who says "I alone can fix this." Comforting.

Stupid, but ignorance is bliss.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Trump used that exact phrase. The dude can’t fix a toilet, let alone the US economy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

He's so full of shit, he's never even used a toilet.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

America was founded as a dictatorship of Whiteness, but when Obama got elected they realized their power was under threat and became fascists.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I grow strong with each triggered conservative that downvotes this comment. Also, dope username

I will add that I don’t think that was a conscious reaction. We’ve decades of data showing that “overt” racism has been consistently declining, while “covert” racism has taken its place. That’s why you don’t see people saying “Obama was a bad president because he was black,” but they’ll complain about a tan suit.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Millions of Americans are stupid and don’t know how to use their brain. These are the same idiots who drive around town in a truck flailing a trump flag. These are the same morons that drive a Tesla because they think Elon is awesome.

Ya I don’t listen to those people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Empty barrels make the most noise

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Can we just give it to them then? We make them live under a brutally oppressive dictatorship with reduced rights, while the rest of us continue to participate in a democracy? We separate them out from society, put them into camps. They could have their own gestapo-esque police force that only had jurisdiction over them. We could even make Trump the head of that police force, but give him no real power outside of the camps, they’d just all live in isolation from the outside world, like Jim Jones or the Branch Dravidians.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

The thing is they don't want that for themselves, they want that for everyone else. The republican mentality has become freedom for me and not for you because they hate being told what to do but love telling others what they can and cannot do.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They already have that, but they're not happy unless you suffer like they do

Why does the riglious right want to change the laws? They already abide by them all. They're not happy that others don't

It's the control. They wouldn't be happy with their own dictator led nation. They want them all that way

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why does the riglious right want to change the laws? They already abide by them all.

Well, except for the one about not molesting children. Somehow they keep getting caught doing that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Ahh yes, true. And when they ban abortions they still have them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

What we need to do is get them to go into the camps themselves so that we can't be accused of oppressing them. Just tell them that living in the camps would own the liberals and make them cry salty tears. Make a movie about an empowered girl who leaves the camp and becomes a success and encourage Ben Shapiro to see it so he'll make a 1-hour video about how people not living in camps proves American men are not masculine anymore. Those sorts of things.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

They should just move to a ready to use dictatorship like Russia and lieve happily (got conscripted and killed)

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those millions of Americans have terrible opinions.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

... and some are full of shit.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (20 children)

What the actual fuck is the article even?

It actually refers to “the white controlled media”

Get this stupid opinion/ racist shit out of here and make a community that aligns with your agenda

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think I agree with their central point, but the writing is terrible. Legitimately reads like the author forgot to take their ADHD medication before writing it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Now taking bets: ESL or AI?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Seriously, I had to scroll down this far to find this? Their evidence is that millions of people support Trump, and Trump wants to be a dictator, ergo millions of people want a dictatorship. Sorry, not people: "whites".

So first, fuck Donald Trump. But while he's certainly said some wild shit, and I do believe that in his heart he would love to be a dictator, I'm pretty sure he's never said anything out loud like "I want to be a dictator". I'm sure a certain number of his fans would be happy to have him as Dear Leader, but most of them want him as President. And, just as many while people voted against Trump as for him, and a significant percentage of the country can't stand the fucker.

Meanwhile, Trump has been growing more popular with non-whites.

This article reads like a hit piece on "white people" by a 14-year-old.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The USA votes it's president in with the Electoral College. Every poll talking about "voters ... tie ... blah ....blah ...blah" doesn't mean shit, cause the voters don't get to pick the president. Their representatives do. And guess what, their representatives don't have to represent them. They can vote however they want. They can even get elected and then switch parties to the bad guys team. Also, fuck the GOP.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Fun fact: As of 2023, the 2004 general election between Bush and Kerry is the only Presidential election since 1988 where Republicans have won the popular vote.

Yay for American democracy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

In 200 odd years there's been something like 1 case of a faithless elector. For all intents and purposes it's a filtered general vote. The electors just carry out their district/state's will.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's not the issue so much as the "rounding" in the way electoral college votes are distributed. Plus states that do "winner take all". It has the effect of skewing the results away from being proportional to the popular vote.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Millions of Americans don't understand the difference between a computer virus and a biological virus. Dumb people want dumb things.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

They also think that if you eat fat it, without any transformation whatsoever, gets deposited in your body as the same fat

And they think fiber actually scrapes their blood vessels

People are just so dumb

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Millions of Americans apparently have the collective IQ of grey paint.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

But point it out and they'll never stop whining about it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

"Rage, rage against the dying of your privilege"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They would practice not voting then

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

ah, but they're all registered to vote & they like voting.

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