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[–] [email protected] 76 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Windows defender is all you need. I keep the free version of malwarebytes on my pc just in case something seems off. It does not start up or run in the background tho.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago

Supplement it with a strong ad blocker and you've eliminated most routes other than phishing for getting malware on your system. It really is shockingly good.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ditto. Maybe a CCleaner once in a while. That’s about it. You kind of have to go out of your way to get windows infected with something, or just be really stupid like plugging in a usb drive you found on the restaurant floor on your lunch break.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

ccleaner is really shady and you probably shouldnt use it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah, just saw that other post about CCleaner. Just uninstalled it last night and installed BleachBit.

Thanks for the pointer, though.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Am sysadmin.

Windows Defender and Adblock is the best you can do with nearly 0 effort.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This but you misspelled Ublock

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago

Ublock origin to be specific. Not that you would find the other one without effort.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is the 2010 version still all that effective in 2023?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Obviously you need to update its malware, spyware, ads and such definitions to accommodate for new things that popped up during those years, but it CommonSense is one of the best virtual protections around.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago

Windows Defender. The W10+ version outperforms most third party antivirus softwares. Also, antivirus software increases the attack surface and becomes a vector for infection, especially the free ones that come with shovelware to ~~market your pc usage~~ improve your privacy or something.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Ditto. I tried a couple of alternatives over the years but most of the "free" programs are either not much better than the already built-in thing, or spam the end user with advertisements about paid services (I'm looking at you, Avast!) to the point that they're a lot more intrusive than any actual virus could have ever been.

Never had any issues with the regular Defender and I've been using Windows for ages.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

In the past, the Windows built-in security software was garbage and you needed a third party tool for safety. I think Microsoft didn't want to admit (internally) how bad the problem really was by investing in a proper security team.

That's no longer true. Modern enterprise user demands forced Microsoft to provide actual security for their OS or risk losing major customers. Today you're better off using the first-party security software than adding any third-party freeware (less complexity, smaller attack surface).

If you want to make your Windows system more secure, then you should read about (and implement) Windows hardening. It's only worth adding third-party security tools if you're paying for something enterprise-grade.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Defender is all I use, with Malwarebytes free as a backup if I sense something feels different. Haven't had a virus in years.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can say that about any antivirus.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Not about all of them. There's enterprise endpoint protection that monitors all code running on the client in real-time and blocks everything that isn't on a whitelist.
So with that, you know.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Windows Defender, uBlock Origin & common sense.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Windows Defender

I used to have a pirated version of ESET, but they forced and update that broke the whole thing.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

Windows Defender alongside common sense. It takes care of most, most of the time. Additional antivirus just bogs down your PC in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I don't use windows anymore but if I'm entirely honest, the best antivirus is knowing what not to do on the internet. I always found that every (especially the free ones) antivirus was more annoying than it was helpful and honestly I don't trust them.

Not that data theft from proprietary software is that big of a deal if you're already using windows

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

i let the free version of malwarebytes scan my files every once in a while. otherwise just common sense.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Windows defender and checking files with virustotal.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Windows defender

Unlock Origin

Adguard home

Plaintext DNS redirect to a local DNS

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

the sysinternals pack includes autoruns 64, not a panacea but helps to check what comes up on boot

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

And Process Explorer, a task manager that can be set to display the VirusTotal results for every running process.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

They are mostly useless. If you want security, don't use Windows. At least Defender isn't a resource whore but it won't protect you from stupidity or a concerted attack.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Besides just the standard defender, I also have the free version of malwarebytes just in case. Common sense is great and all, but it doesn't help in every single situation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

The one that comes with the operating system + common sense

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have the network adapter disabled in BIOS. No viruses or Microsoft malware can enter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

That only works if you also disable the PSU. After this step, however, your system will be virtually unbreakable.