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Don't worry, I'm sure she'll get a very harsh sentence, like those people with revoked voting rights who mistakenly think they can vote with provisional ballots in good faith and get tossed in prison for years because of it, right?
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I bet she had a strong opinion on those.
Well that’s the thing, something this massive hasn’t happened before. At least hasn’t happened before and successfully prosecuted.
Going by guidelines, she’s looking at two and a half centuries of prison. How sentencing will actually go, who knows? There’s literally nothing to base it on.
I think he was referencing this case and the ridiculous sentence she received for making a good faith mistake, and the general trend to give harsher sentences to black folks and democrats for this. (Second link contrasts against other cases)
Also: Texas.
Still hasn’t been corrected either despiteit being an egregious racially-motivated injustice.
https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud
How about this guy?
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-congressman-charged-ballot-stuffing-bribery-and-obstruction
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Myers_(Pennsylvania_politician)
In 2020, he was accused of stuffing ballot boxes in Philadelphia elections during the 2010s, and charged with election fraud. He pleaded guilty in 2022, and was sentenced to 2+1⁄2 years in federal prison.
Prosecutors said Taylor, a Vietnam native, approached numerous voters of Vietnamese heritage with limited English comprehension and filled out and signed election forms and ballots on behalf of them and their English-speaking children.
Keep in mind he still lost his election.
While it’s incredibly rare for fraud to affect more than a handful of votes, the frequency with which Republicans do it isn’t a coincidence. It’s a direct result of a party that is undermining democracy at every turn and—importantly—telling its voters that the other side is going to cheat anyway.
It's more of the "I am able to cheat, so everyone must be cheating" Logic that gets people into trouble. Then they realize that they are the only ones cheating
Then they realize that they are the only ones cheating
Do they?
Either they never believed the bullshit, or they're so completely deluded by it that they just believe it's unfair that they are the only ones being punished when the other side "does so much worse"
everyone who supported Trump is an unrepentant cheater and liar in the rest of their lives.. that's why they love him.. he is obviously a cheater and liar, and he always gets away with it.. he's their hero, and they will never give him up.. trying to reason with them will never work.. they want the world to be run by the cheaters and liars..
@HuddaBudda @FlyingSquid He didn't win a congressional seat, but he *did* win his County Supervisor seat, which tbh in some ways is worse (big fish, little pond). His wife committed fraud in both elections, and >
"Jeremy Taylor is an unindicted co-conspirator in his wife’s voter fraud scheme. Kim Taylor was found guilty of 26 counts of providing false information in registering and voting, three counts of fraudulent registration, and 23 counts of fraudulent voting."
DOJ: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/woman-convicted-voter-fraud-scheme
The venn diagram between voter fraud accusators and voter fraud committers is just a fucking circle.
This is why they accuse the Democrats of cheating to win the election. They cheated and still lost so the only explanation must be that the Democrats cheated more! (It can't possibly be that they actually lost. Nope. Not at all!)
I've been saying this from the start and people called me crazy
And now when the Democrats correctly point out the cheating Republicans do, voters will say "bOtH pArtIeS tHe sAmE".
Finally found all that voter fraud the conservatives keep screaming is out there. I'm sure they'll condemn this in the harshest of terms, right guys?
Every accusation is an admission.
I used to think this was hyperbole about Republicans, but now it's become a truism.
I don't accuse when I know they're lying
Accusation = confession
It's funny, I always only hear about Republicans committing voter fraud. Never democrats.
Election fraud is where the real fun is
Must be #libtardmedia /s
All that Republican screaming about voter fraud and stolen elections can’t quite hide the fact that most cases of actual fraud seem to come from Republicans.
Libs, Dems, fellow Dudes - lend me your earpods. Dig this big crux: republiQans absolutely DO NOT respond to reasoned arguments. It’s been working like magic since the 1980’s.
Let’s STOP pretending that we’re going to convince any republiQans of anything and understand and accept that they are seriously brainwashed cultists who can not get out of it (due to the brainwashing and the cult).
Articles with this spin - “when will republiQans learn?” - are so aggravating because IT NEVER ENDS - it simply builds to a crescendo prior to the election, republiQans vote to destroy everything good again, and the cycle restarts.
Trump SHOULD have broken this. It is OUR fault that he didn’t. Because we want discussion to work. We’re not fanatical crusaders constantly harping on people around us (or elected representatives), and we think reason and discussion should carry the day.
It hasn’t for a very long time, and let’s now understand that it won’t.
Let’s stop thinking our republiQan neighbors are going to figure anything out. Until their propaganda hypnosis is broken (and again, let’s not kid ourselves, it’s only getting stronger), we are ALONE out here in democracy.
Justice, Environment, Healthcare, Education. They’re always going to try to destroy these things. Stop hoping. Start talking about events with a new perspective. The reasonable Republican - if it was ever a thing - is GONE. No new information will change them.
We need to figure out to thrive despite them. Shitty people will always exist, now we should learn to better minimize their negative impact. Any plans to make the world a better place that involve convincing bad people that they should be good or require stupid people to be stop being stupid are doomed from the start. And for all I know, I'm one of the stupid ones.
"Nobody should have that much power" "Nobody for President!" -- Wavy Gravy
I agree 100% with what you said, but they are in a cult fr. He uses cult techniques to win people over. I've said this before, but trump actually uses hypnosis techniques to get to people and we do have ways to counteract that. If people you know are listening to a speech of his, speed it up because you "want to hear the whole thing but are in a hurry." Make fun of his weaknesses and trip ups and make sure the cultists do the same things you're making fun of. There are ways.
Pedophilia, Demonic, Lying, etc. etc.
It’s always projection. Always.
GOP *crickets
I'm shocked I tell you, shocked! A republican doing fraud? No!
The choice you all make is do you keep posting this stuff to each other or do you create an account on GAB and truth social and share the knowledge.
Now you might say, what's the point. Or eww work. Or 'I'm not cool wit conflict '
But I'll tell you that right now, in Canada there is a Canadian hanging out on am overpass holding signs spreading fucking Republican bullshit and just yesterday a Canadian tractor was taking out and it had a fucking 'don't tread one flag'. So just saying that you don't gotta do anything but if the Republicans can convince Canadians to fight police and stand on over passes during the winter holding their signs, then I think none of the information matters since it disappears as fast as it arrives
This is a nice sentiment, but it unfortunately doesn't work. Have you heard of the Backfire Effect? Their worldview isn't built upon facts, and often times, showing them evidence of how wrong their worldview is only further entrenches them.
If you want to undo the indoctrination, look up Deep Canvasing and apply it to people you have a relationship with. Trying to point out the hypocrisy to strangers on the internet as some kind of "gotcha" only pisses people off, and then they're reacting out of emotionalism instead of rationality.
Have you done this?
Yup, on reddit I would. But you get blocked pretty quick and the site bans the IP if you circumvent that.
I noticed the right do this all the time. Infiltrate a lot of places I visited that weren't even political. But multiple accounts would post rage bait and not stop then laugh as people got all worked up. Its harder with their subs and forums because they usually lock their stuff up or have aggressive content removal policy
Thing is it can get good discussion of you get some past them. But there's a tight moderation that controls what they will discuss.
On Reddit you would join TruthSocial and Gab?
No haven't done it there. Reddit and twitter. But I named gab and truth social as heavy right wing sites since most people here won't go back to reddit or twitter anymore.
So do what you say but not what you do. I see.
No, I have done it. But also not an American so not as intent on spreading republican shit posts. I often go into right leaning places and stir shit to engage with them. From what I observe there isn't many who do and that is a big issue to me since it is something they do often. And by doing it they spread a lot of their information rapidly whereas information on the left moves at a snails pace because it struggles to break out of certain groups.