What is it with these people like Russia and Florida who think if you ban something it simply won't exist? Gay people have been around ever since there were people. Just because you pass a law doesn't mean they'll vanish.
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Such laws make it easier to hurt the target of their hatred. They can actively try to make groups of people not exist.
But the fact is they've always existed and will always exist. Their hatred is moot, but they're too stupid to realize it.
They want to kill all of them. And then keep doing so every time new ones come out.
Absolutely. They represent the worst parts of human nature.
It's about destroying those who express themselves in ways that authoritarians feel threatened by, and in doing so intimidating others into falling in line.
florida doesnt have a history of exiling millions of people to gulags...
And we should loudly continue to compare them to those with those histories due to similarity of behavior until they change their behavior so that they will never have the chance to quietly add a similar history to their own books.
If we don't want a "gulags of Florida" chapter written in history, it's appropriate to call the behavior that would lead to one out
. . . yet
Remind me what happened to the indigenous peoples of Florida?
florida doesnt have a history of exiling millions of people to gulags…
We have our own issues with incarceration. Florida has the 3rd largest prison population in the US, and the US has the highest prisoner population in the world, by a decent margin. While we aren't working and starving people to death, US prisons are quite inhumane relative to other modern countries.
Florida never decriminalized same-sex relationships, it took a federal ruling in 2003 to revoke their sodomy laws. They have yet to repeal them. In my father's lifetime he witnessed a scandalous trial of two young men for sodomy while he was growing up in the area. It needlessly ruined their lives. This was still happening not long ago.
Florida isn't literally running gulags but their behavior isn't anything to be celebrated either.
But it does have a history of "Don't Say Gay"
And there are lots of people who think Russia is Socialist...
not that it is, but even if it was, what does socialism have to do with this?
General left of center demonization. This person is lamenting the pattern that will likely continue that consists of things less left than communism (in this case, socialism) being treated as equally "scary" or "nefarious" as communism, in the McCarthy era Red Scare definitions of scary/nefarious (unless I'm misreading, but that seems to be what's happening here)
i read it as suggesting that in socialism there would be no discrimination of lgbt people
Oh i get what you're pointing out now, yeah, it is kinda weird to just assume all leftists are pro-lgbtqia.
It seems like every combination of person, no matter how seemingly contradictory vibes-wise, exists in some form or another lol
Like it's weird, I am doing the same lumping pattern that I know I shouldn't be in the same breath as acknowledging that it's weird to do that pattern lol cognitive dissonance is weird when you notice it...
I mean it was prevailing communist theory in Stalin's era that being queer was "bourgeois degeneracy"
Meanwhile Lenin decriminalized it. Castro did both.
If by "did both" you mean for 20 years sent queer people to reeducation camps before ultimately decriminalizing it when Mariela Castro was 17, sure.
I'm talking here in general... If you watch the socialist governments, they support the LGBTQ community, whereas the right governments, because they're religious don't support the LGBTQ. So, all the socialist governments like Mexico's, Cuba, Chile, Venezuela, etc are in cahoots with Russia and they say because Russia is Socialist.
I'm pretty sure it's just the brainwashed tankies calling Russia socialist, and even then it's usually more of a "They aren't socialist anymore but they're anti America and therefore good" sort of thing.
I've never seen a government with a communist party refer to Russia as socialist.
Are you the original Potato in my Anus from the Reddit days of yore?
Nahh... I'm not the one from Reddit
Expect the Freedom Caucus to follow suit in roughly two weeks
It doesn't take a crystal ball to know that the Russia Caucus is going to follow Russia's lead.
One can usually tell who the good guys and bad guys are by how they treat their LGBT citizens.
Yeah mostly because we’re an effective internal target that will always exist and is capable of hiding. Authoritarians notice this and declare us the cause of society’s ills to take heat off themselves.
Scapegoating minority groups is nothing new for Russia. They've done it to Jews and Kulaks and many more. LGBT groups also tend to be on the left, which far-right groups hate.
I also believe tolerance of same-sex relationships tends to change due to population pressures. Russia needs population after they needlessly sacrificed so many young men in Ukraine. They want to up their fertility rate, so they criminalize and delegitimize those who enjoy non-reproductive sex; so anyone that isn't a Kinsey 6 is coerced to find a partner of the opposite sex.
Hexbear will almost certainly ignore this.
Russia should be banned for being extremist.
they are wise to do so.. the International LGBT Movement could take down the Putin Regime with very little effort..
Hasn’t the world already banned Russia as extremist?
USA looking nervous
the world shook hands with them and will keep shaking
And so where is Putin gonna go?