Desinformation. Trump has not been arrested.
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He was arrested, booked, fingerprinted, and formally charged on 37 counts then released on the condition that he avoid contact with potential witnesses in his upcoming trial.
I mean they keep telling him to stop talking about the case on social media, and that's not working out.
The article at least states that he was. But that does not necessarily mean he is in jail.
Biden returned the documents before they even know they were gone and he was the one who told them he had them. Trump refused to return the documents when they were requested back and he is caught on tape admitting to knowing he wasn't supposed to have them. Also he asked his lawyers to destroy evidence.
Huge difference between a crime with someone cooperating and someone who tries to destroy evidence. Also the content of trump's documents seem like they're higher level and more highly classified.
the Justice Department recommended the defendants be released with no financial or special conditions as they aren't a "flight risk."
Being “arrested” is not the way I remember it
Headline in five days:
"We were wrong" says justice department when asked about Trump fleeing to Russia for diplomatic protection.
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This title is a little misleading. No, Trump has not been arrested but he did appear in court. He is not in any form of jail (yet).
We need one of those mod appliable (or vote-appliable?) "Misleading title" or "headline altered" tags maybe
That does make me wonder if there's an option in Lemmy to add tags to posts.
The headline was not altered.
I'd like to see him manage to wiggle his way out of this one. I'm not American so I'm not familiar with the systems in place and all, but from everything I've seen, well... it's not looking good for him. At all.
But honestly, with Trump legendary incompetence and ability to keep on digging his own grave, I'm barely here for the politics, this is just good entertainment at this point. Even if I know that while this is funny, this will probably be remembered as anything but.
I don't think he can actually get out of this one, but he can still litigate it to hell and back. It will depend on which judges his various challenges land in front of and what their capacity for his bullshit is. But he's 77 and eats garbage and doesn't exercise. Very real possibility he just croaks before he ever sees the inside of a cell.
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he pleaded not guilty. and his lawyer said this is "an attack on america".
'cause he had boxes of papers he wasn't supposed to have, that this is an attack on america? yeah, okay 🙄
This is gonna be wild... the feds hardly ever lose.
With that, I'm very curious to see the fallout should he be convicted.
i'm a little worried some of his cultists may find their way onto the jury and block a conviction
Oh man they're probably all having wet dreams over being "the hero that saves America" or something right now.
All it takes is one. They’ll refuse to consider anything other than not guilty.
the rest of the jury can ask the judge to remove one who is not deliberating in good faith
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The whataboutism will be endless as well
I work with many people who are so upset over this, calling it injustice and how horrible that we choose to prosecute Trump when we should instead be jailing Hillary, Harris, and Biden.
I bite my tongue and don’t say anything but it’s so frustrating.
As far as Hillary goes I am not sure why Trump's DoJ didn't hand down an indictment if it had evidence that she ultimately committed a crime? I guess the same is true for Hunter.
oh yeah! thank you for saying that :) trump had the doj under his control and still didn't have enough evidence to indict her. i would think that would shut up the "jail hillary and joe" crowd, but i guess they have super short term memory
same here. i'm all for treating everyone as equal, but i'm pretty sure nothing new came up after hillary was already investigated and iirc biden was slapped on the wrist for not returning some documents. but hey, you know, one box is the same as rooms full of boxes, apparently
his lawyer said this is “an attack on america”.
I'm wondering if the lawyers who quit did so because they were too embarrassed to say shit like that in court, despite a certain client's demands.
the lawyers that quit are lawyers who don't want to perjure themselves, probably 🙃
He's just a walking blizzard of dishonesty.
Fucker needs to rot in prison!
AP news says Trump will be released without bond
Trump will be released without having to pay a bond. He will not have to surrender his passport or restrict his personal travel.
Meanwhile, someone allegedly steals a backpack in NYC and languishes in jail for years, then dies without ever having their trial.
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First for everything in the opposite direction
A little on a tangent here but...
I'm guessing News and WorldNews will, again and like in Reddit, be actually USANews. Let's see what the fediverse and instances do bring to that issue.
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So much unprecedented stuff has happened since his term, but I don't think anyone was ever confident he would actually stand trial for a federal jury.
He flew too close to the sun. He could have gotten away with so much shit, but he just can't help himself and doesn't know any boundaries.
I am from Poland and didn't really follow the whole case. Can someone explain me why there is a thread that he will be arrested? It is hard to find the origin as the whole case exploded.
There's a LegalEagle video which sums it up: Trump's Bombshell Federal Document Indictment
Essentially,
- Trump took classified information during his time as president and failed to return them
- When asked to return them he failed to comply until forced
- When forced to comply, he still kept many documents the government knew were missing and lied to the government and his lawyers indicating that they were returned
- Was caught on tape admitting that he knew they were classified and that it was wrong for him to have them
The first bullet point apparently happens often (Biden, Pence, Hillary have all done similarly in the past). Trump is singular in that he didn't readily comply with the request for the return of documents and the consequent lies to the government (also illegal).
He took top secret documents when he left the white house. They don't belong to him, they're meant to be secured in the library of congress or something. Anyway, librarians tried to get them back, he said no, did a bunch of illegal shit (including flashing them around people he wanted to impress) so FBI got involved, raided his place, found more secret documents, special prosecutor was appointed who took ages really nailing the iron clad case together. Now he been arraigned in court facing federal charges. Because Trumps a dumb shit.
The vast majority of federal cases end with a plea deal. Any idea if that could include forfeiting any right to run for public office? Would be great for peace of mind if so
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