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Lemmy.ml has now blocked Threads.net

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Good call, guys. No more Zuck.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sweet action! After hearing about Lemmy.world not doing the same i'll be switching instances. It's great that I can make that decision.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Forgive my ignorance but how is Threads part of the fediverse? How did .ml defederate it?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm pretty conflicted about this I gotta say.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You shouldn't be. These companies are not here to play along, but dominate. Just like reddit played along with 3rd party developers until it didn't need them anymore, so will Meta use the openess of the protocol to ultimately undermine it.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

How does that work? Is threads using a protocol compatible to lemmy? (And I fully agree with the preemptive blocking of any facebook stuff).

Edit: thanks for all the detailled answers.

So Facebook tries the old EEE - Embrace Extend Extinguish. 1.A big company is Embracing an open source standard ("we're friendly, see?) They get a lot of users that way - even the open source savvy types. 2.they start Extending that standard "to make it even better" - but not talking about these changes with the rest of the community first. They cannot react quickly enough and become incompatible with the new version of this standard. 3.Extinguish. When all the users are effectively using the big companies platform with something that isn't the original standard anymore they change it so much that it isn't compatible at all anymore or replace it completely.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Threads is using the protocol that the entire fediverse is using, called ActivityPub. The protocol allows for lemmy instances to communicate with each other and with other sites like kbin and mastodon. What lemmy.ml did is called defederation, so threads can't communicate with lemmy.ml. This is to prevent meta/Instagram/Facebook from killing ActivityPub in the same manner Microsoft, IBM, and Google has killed open source protocols in the past.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Yes. Threads wants to use the ActivityPub Protokoll. We can interact with Kbin and Mastodon users thanks to this Protocol. The fear is that they use their huge user base to change the protocol to their liking (basically take control over the ActivityPub) and everyone who wants to stay federated with them and their users has to adapt those changes until the day they will simply cut everyone off.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I don't generally judge people based on their appearance, but this man's face gives me the heebie-jeebies. There's something alienating about the lack of affect he seems to have, plus his features seem to be an approximation of a human face - the mouth is too small, the ears too big, the forehead too shiny...

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Oh, but not the first largest Lemmy instance?

Hmmm... I wonder who that could be...

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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