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[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Fun fact about th USS Constitution, the US Navy maintains an entire white oak forest in Indiana just to use in the maintenance of this one ship.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That actually is a very fun fact.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pfft that's nothing. HMAS Melbourne was the only Australian ship to sink two friendly ships in peacetime 💪

She was just that eager to spill blood.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Metal as fuck

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's cooler in Fallout 4. It's crewed by robots and flies.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also real life is a downer. Was super cramped, don’t know how they fit 100 dudes in that thing.

Also, since our taxes are keeping it floatable, would it kill them to bring it into armament parity? Swap out the guns with missile tubes, maybe an icbm tower in one of the masts?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are M134 chaser guns too much to ask for?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that one unit in Civilization you forgot about and never upgraded in 500 years

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

USS Constitution April 2022

Cool ship, took a tour last year

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Men only want one thing and it's ~~disgusting~~ beautiful

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

That looks rad!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have a 3ft model of the constitution in a box that I've been meaning to put together for about 10 years now... but cats.

Maybe someday I'll have a spot to put it together in peace.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oldest American naval warship still afloat....

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Or any nation as far as sources I have list.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Apparently there is this uge differwncw about where you storage them. The only reason some portugues and British ships aren't the oldest sailing vessels is because we keep them in museums. Yhe but they are still in comission, sooo idk I guess we where both right depending how you frase it.

So, while the USS Constitution is the oldest naval vessel still afloat, the HMS Victory holds the record for the oldest naval vessel still in commission. Both ships are significant historical artifacts and serve as museum ships, commemorating important eras in naval history.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Although HMS victory is the oldest naval vessel in comission, she's got 3 decades on the old girl

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What's the shitter look like?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

None to speak of. Poop was slammed off the sides.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Both wrong and right

https://ussconstitutionmuseum.org/2014/01/18/head-lines/

Hilarious title, 'Head Lines'

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

So old it's still grayscale

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Does it still sail, tough? I know the French analog, the Hermione, does.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, at least once, maybe twice a year it sails. Meanwhile it’s docked at its own museum the rest of the year - the ship itself is free, but they charge for the museum. I’ve seen it many times

Funny anecdote: when I first met my about to become new in-laws, they came from Washington DC to visit me in Boston for the Fourth of July. I was excited to take them to see the Constitution, both boarding at the museum dock and watching it “sail” down Boston harbor. I must have gone on a bit, due to my excitement ….. eventually my about to be new mother-in-law from DC spoke up with not understanding how they could do that with such an historic document, and what would there be to see anyway

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I wonder what happened to the USS Charisma

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm guessing she's having some work done to the rigging? Not a yard on her.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I feel like the term afloat is used because it not safe to take out in open water?

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, they sail her around all the time. The USS Constitution is a commissioned vessel in the United States Navy, crewed by active duty sailors. They use the term "afloat" because HMS Victory is the oldest commissioned naval vessel, but she is kept as a museum ship in drydock.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That makes sense, appreciate the answer. I’ve just always heard it as “sea-worthy” before, afloat in that sense is a little weird.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Well, knowing the USN, the reason is either a) some extremely long, convoluted line of reasoning formulated through several Senate subcommittee hearings to avoid pissing anyone off or b) someone wrote it that way once 75 years ago, and no one knows enough about why to want to change it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’m in the navy. “Afloat” means “goes to sea”, generally. A museum ship might literally be floating in water, but it can’t go to sea.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fun fact: HMS Victory was actually bombed by the Nazis during WWII, which means she technically saw combat over a span of ~~144~~ 164 years (1778-1941).

Edit: math are hard.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Oldest "active" ship in the US (or any) navy, IIRC, they take it out once a year to get rated seaworthy & remain active. Amazing ship. want to feel like a puny, pampered modern person? Read Patrick Obriens 20 volume Master and Commander series...so many unwashed asses on these for so many months in some of the most inhospitable regions of this planet.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Twice a year to turn it around for equal weathering. They raffle tickets for people to ride on it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They also sailed her under her own power back in the late 1990’s. I was a USCG Auxiliarist back then and was on one of the escort boats that kept the public from getting too close.

They also occasionally do invite-only turnaround cruises. I was lucky enough to be invited on one of those during my USCG days as well.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m more into space, but I’ll put it on the list…

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Nope. Old Ironsides is seaworthy and makes regular trips out to open ocean, usually under tow but she has an incomplete set of sails and can sail under her own power.

The US Navy owns a plot of southern live oak trees in Georgia set aside specifically for maintaining USS Constitution.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From what I've been able to find, the ships were originally built using live oak trees from Georgia, but the forest the US Navy maintains for the USS Constitution is in Indiana.

https://www.military.com/history/why-us-navy-manages-its-own-private-forest.html

https://ussconstitutionmuseum.org/2015/05/11/the-wooden-walls/

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