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[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 year ago (6 children)

They had embassies? I figured their diplomats would defect at the first chance, as long as their families were with them.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Defect to the NK friendly country their embassy is in? I'm not sure how that would play out. They would probably just get deported back to NK where they will be punished. I'd bet a nickel that the diplomats are heavily watched as well.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

Says one of the embassies was in Spain, so that wouldn't be bad. I doubt they can travel with their families though for that exact reason.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can be a refugee in a new country or part of the elite 1% in your home country. Probably an easy choice for most of them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The poor in many developed countries probably have better food security.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Iirc that means 3 generations of your extended family must be put into labor camps.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

And they use their diplomatic immunity to deal meth and spread counterfeit money to get some cash for their war machine.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

It's not run by normal people, it's the elite and defecting would lose the status for all the family up to the 100th generation

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In Berlin they simply ran a cheap hotel on the embassy property instead of a real embassy, ​​no joke.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I have a bad feeling that they're preparing for war...

Russia let out the ghost of war from its bottle. I hope all of this don't end up in a 3rd world war.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

They might be, but the list of embassies that are being closed seems a bit strange for that:

Spain, Hong Kong, and multiple countries in Africa

I'd've thought they'd keep the African embassies open: it's not like North Korea and Africa are going to war, they both have enough dislike of the West that Africa might sell supplies or diplomacy in a war, and it's always useful to have back channels and diplomatic relations in a war. So why "multiple countries in Africa"?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

End up? We're already there, it just hasn't been officially declared.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tbh yeah - all you need is to do a bit of reading on the events leading up to WW2 - if this was in a book/movie I'd be saying "come on guys, that's a little on the nose, isn't it" lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

We're in "lead up to ww3" part of the history books.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No. At this point any significant aggression towards the south would lead to a quick end to the NK regime.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Boring conversation anyway. Luke! We're gonna have company!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Both Angola and Uganda have forged friendly ties with North Korea since the 1970s, maintaining military cooperation and providing rare sources of foreign currency such as statue-building projects.

More than a dozen missions may close, likely because of international sanctions, a trend of Pyongyang's disengaging globally and the probable weakening of the North Korean economy, he said in a report on Wednesday.

Seoul's unification ministry, which handles inter-Korean affairs, said the pullout reflected the impact of international sanctions aimed at curbing funding for the North's nuclear and missile programs.

"They appear to be withdrawing as their foreign currency earning business has stumbled due to the international community's strengthening of sanctions, making it difficult to maintain the embassies any longer," the ministry said in a statement.

North Korea has formal relations with 159 countries, but had 53 diplomatic missions overseas, including three consulates and three representative offices, until it pulled out of Angola and Uganda, according to the ministry.

Pyongyang denounced the incident as a "grave breach of sovereignty and terrorist attack," and accused the United States of not investigating the group thoroughly and refusing to extradite its leader.


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