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Elder scrolls (slrpnk.net)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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In b4 someone tells me 6 isn't out yet

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 7 months ago (3 children)

UIs get worse all the time, very frustrating. Who needs contrast, right? I have good eyes and know exactly where to look. My mother? Holy shit no chance.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Not necessarily for visibility but when i work I NEED FUCKING BORDERS FOR MY FUCKING BRAIN TO KEEP FUCKING STRUCTURE AND NOT EVERYTHING FADING OUT INTO ..yeah thanks i lost the thread again

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Seriously fuck Wikipedia's desktop redesign, I regret that I donated before the change

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In case you weren't aware, there are extensions that you can use to restore the older (better) UIs. Here are a couple:

There are probably some for other browsers as well. I don't use them though. I instead wrote myself a tampermonkey script to change it:

if (!window.location.search.contains('useskin')) {
  var new_url = window.location.protocol
      + "//" + window.location.hostname
      + window.location.pathname;
  if (window.location.search == "") {
    new_url = new_url + "?useskin=monobook";
  } else {
    new_url = new_url + window.location.search + "&useskin=monobook";
  }
  new_url = new_url + window.location.hash;
  window.location.replace(new_url);
}

You can compare the available wikipedia styles on this page to see which one you like best: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Skin?useskin=monobook

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Yeah, and I do that, I just don't think I should have to. I should be able to open the website on a fresh install and not get nauseous using it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

At least on the bright side, people are becoming much more aware of accessibility. I'd argue that old sites were accessible mainly on accident due to most being restricted to fairly straightforward CSS and HTML. The advent of Javascript was a dark time...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I don't think it was a pure accident as some non-accessible designs would still be possible with those limitations. IIRC scroll bars were taken from the OS back then, so if the OS didn't have accessible design, it wouldn't be a thing for the websites either.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's really depressing how often I have to turn off CSS entirely just to view a webpage. I could of course always go into the inspector and turn off the bad CSS, but Gecko-based browsers fortunately have "View -> Page Style -> No Style" which is must easier and faster.

And seriously, whoever invented the font-weight CSS property can burn in hell. Ditto for whoever decided that we should only be allowed to read light grey text on slightly lighter grey background.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Browsers have an accessibility check for contrast for this reason. More devs / designers should use it.