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Why is defederation an option when Limit/Mute exist? (reddthat.com)

submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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In short i just jumped into the whole Mastodon blocking drama and am somewhat disappointed to see it as childish as reddit's power mod drama. Accelerated by the fact that a Limit/Mute option exist just fine, i wonder why Block/Defederation is an option at all. It only moves power from the user to admins without anything in return. With just Mute, as far as i can tell, one still wouldn't have to look on certain instances, but could interact/whitelist certain individuals and we'd get rid of the multi account requirement overnight. So why isn't it that way?

Edit: For those annoyed by the same siloing issues, look into ATProto. Bluesky may be a big unknown, but the protocol itself looks a lot more promising in terms of user freedom.

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[+] [email protected] -14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Why are you acting condescending while do your best to miss the point?

They absolutely have to look at the ad first

No, they don't. That's what Limit is for.

Its the same reason we have billion dollar corpos in the first place Now we start to gain on those companies

Who said something about billion dollar corpos?

Looking away is exactly the analogy that fits and you know it.

I don't. Please explain if you know better than i do.

Would I like to nuke meta

Who said something about Meta?

They can leave to one of the other thousands of fediverse servers.

Which are just as likely to be blocked for arbitrary reasons or blocklist bullying. A simple, but prominent example is mastodon.art.

I‘m not sure if you‘re oblivious to this by design. Its the same issue with leaving a co* untry or state that imposes laws you dont like. Does it make more sense to vote? Absolutely.

Yet.. you can't vote..

You‘d be very happy on the threads side of federation from what I hear.

Again, nice of you to assume things for me.

You’re welcome to make your own instance that is totally free for all corpos to exploit and show us all how great that works.

Last but not least, who said something about corps?

To be civil and adjourn to your argument, sure, i hate Meta like the next one and they should be cut off by design, but that was never the point. I am just advocating for a streamlined user experience where one account can interact with everyone, if they choose to do so. A default black veil by admins is perfectly fine to move their instance in the right direction, but why should it be more than that? Every further action is authoritarian and undemocratic.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You‘re accusing me of the exact thing you‘re doing and aren’t even answering my arguments, blocked.