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They were just champing at the bit for an excuse to get more racist. I can't believe the utter heel turn with their border rhetoric

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1bauos4/biden_says_he_regrets_using_term_illegal_as_trump/?sort=controversial

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

It's hilarious that these liberals are surprised that Cuban immigrants to the United States are right wing and support Trump. Are they so racist that they think that all Latinos are the same and automatically vote Democrat? Do they realise that many of the Cuban immigrants to the US were part of the land owning bourgeois class and were always very right wing, in the same way that many "immigrants/expats" from global south countries that had a revolution or change of government are? South African immigrants/expats after 1994 are another perfect example of this phenomenon.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Are they so racist that they think that all Latinos are the same and automatically vote Democrat?

Yes, and it's quite funny too. When you get down to it there's all sorts of latin american migrants in the US. And the ones likely to vote Democrat probably won't get the right to do so.

I tried to make the point that the sort of person that has the money to migrate to the US in a way that they get to vote is likely a wealthy person whose only connection to the home country is exploiting its health care system. Not to mention that countries in Latin America are a) amongst the most religious conservative in the world; and b) becoming less catholic and more puritan because the pope is too woke for them. I was told I was racist against latinos.

I think there's also a counterpart to this as a bet that Republican's notion of whiteness can't expand to include 'mexicans and other latinos'. Which is only true in so far as it bars potentially democrat migrants from voting. Right wingers do not care that the right wing hates them on the grounds of race or culture. A gay man who's a right winger will keep voting Republican because they know they are protected by their wealth and/or class. Likewise for the white passing Latino that moves from 'Communist Homeland' to Miami. They voted for the 'Tropical Trump' before, and they'll vote for the real deal as soon as they are able.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

Also to do with your last paragraph, Latino isn't even a racial group as most US citizens understand it, quite a few Latinos are just straight up white, like most people from Uruguay and Argentina for example. And then obviously you get Afro-Latinos as well. But I guess that's too complicated for US citizens, who just view all Latinos as impoverished Mexican immigrants.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago

Didn't you know? South America is a country, not a continent. maybe-later-kiddo

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"Do they realise that many of the Cuban immigrants to the US were part of the land owning bourgeois class and were always very right wing, in the same way that many "immigrants/expats" from global south countries that had a revolution or change of government are?"

Of course they don't. Liberals don't understand or even bother to learn history. That is precisely why they are liberals.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

Liberals don't consider things like class or material analysis

The people coming to the US are part of an ethnic minority group, so liberals believe that they 'should be' voting liberal because liberals are slightly less openly terrible to non white people. Then they become shocked when

A. The people coming in are not some homogenized mass of liberal voters and

B. Being 'slightly less terrible' isn't really a selling point