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[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I know the second is the groundbreaking one, but I always had a soft spot for this one.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (4 children)

And while Dune 2 laid much of the initial groundwork for early real-time strategy games, I highly advise anyone from current times who is interested to play Dune 2000 instead. If you ask me, the original Command and Conquer (same developers, Westwood) is the actual genesis of the modern RTS, and Dune 2000 is built on the Command and Conquer engine and is this significantly less clunky and irritating to actually play.

And it's got John Rhys-Davies in the cutscenes. You can't really go wrong there.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

I loved the FMV cut scenes in Westwood Studios games. They always managed to get a minor celebrity as the games got bigger.

They also made a really good Diablo style game called Nox.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Agreed Dune 2000 is a better experience with better quality of life mechanics but Dune 2 was definitely the actual genesis of modern rts, compared to C&C. All amazing games. Dune 2, for its time, but it’s definitely aged at this point I’m with you there.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

https://www.openra.net/

FOSS recreation of the oldschool C&C games + Dune 2000.

Edit: Also this - https://gruntmods.com/dune_2000_gruntmods_edition/

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean … Warcraft Orcs & Humans came out before c&c

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Warcraft, especially the first one, was quite archiac compared to C&C.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Command & Conquer released 2 months before Warcraft 2.

Dune was the genesis of the RTS and while command and conquer was fun it ultimately lost out to Warcraft / StarCraft

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No one is arguing which game came out first. I didn't say C&C was the first game. I said C&C was the first one to nail the modern RTS format, and because of that I think Dune 2000 is a less irritating game to play from a modern perspective than Dune 2.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

And I’m simply stating otherwise.

C&C came after Warcraft and released effectively alongside Warcraft 2 which I would personally argue was the best rts entry at the time.

And given that the Warcraft/starcraft franchise lasted and command and conquer died off I’d personally argue that history points that way also but again, just my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Im a huge fan of the Warcraft rts games but you are right. Especially the first Warcraft felt like an ancient game compared to the first C&C, the controls were horrific (no right clicking on resources to send peons to it lol).