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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

All I see is someone who finally wants to shut down the war machine. I have waited since the Bush administration for someone to do that. Obama ran on bringing our troops home, and actually expanded foreign military involvement.

If Trump is the only one who has the balls to put an end to the American World Police, then so be it.

I don't know how or why democrats decided to be pro-war, but they'll have to fight the rest of us to keep it up. That money and those soldiers would be much better utilized locally, and with a much lower chance of dying for someone else's cause.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago

He was president for four years and he didnt do this at all. What are you talking about?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sucking up to Putin and Kim Jong Il isn't anti-war. It is just picking the other side of the war machine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I don't even care if I got the name wrong. That's how little respect I have. Unlike Trump.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

Military spending still increased under trump. The only war machines he shut down were our allies' we were helping in local conflicts. That and showing the US is unreliable if someone like him gets office again

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

All I see is someone making weak excuses to put a fascist back in the White House.

If Trump is the only one who has the balls to put an end to the American World Police, then so be it.

You have got to be shitting me. He had his chance; he was in office for four years. Get the fuck outta here, man.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

There are a lot of good responses to you here. @FatCrab raised mercenary use of U.S. forces - I am not familiar with that story but I believe Trump advisor Erik Prince did in fact offer mercenary support to the Wagner group.

Trump at one point mooted invading Venezuela. Members of the GOP (and reportedly Trump himself) are currently floating the idea of bombing Mexico. And let's not forget, Trump has famously threatened to use the military against American citizens.

So unless you want to leave the impression that you are just a right wing troll on a drive by, which would not be healthy for your long-term prospects here, perhaps you'd care to expound on the nuance of your argument?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

The same guy who attacked protestors live on TV for a photoshoot, that's the guy who's ending war? Nah bud he's bringing the war here and going to crush us citizens again.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

There are some comments on some threads that really call into question the lack of a downvote button.

When a comment is so wrongheaded, so topsy-turvy logically and morally, it is actively harmful to discourse; not being able to deemphasize it leads to a generally worsened conversation.