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if you call everyone dude and a transfem person gets mad about it, don't get defensive. just say like "sorry, i won't do it again" and don't argue "actually it's gender neutral" or "i call everyone dude". even if you do, i guarantee she's heard that argument from someone who very much does not call people they see as women dude. i certainly have

same goes double for the word guy.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm a non native speaker and only officially learned basic grammar pronouns (I to they). All the street pronouns (dude, y'all, pardner) I've learned were from the internet.

What are the best gender neutral street pronouns in current use?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

y'all, all, folks, would all be commonly acceptable. honestly i try to just avoid the matter entirely when possible

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

These are all plural, though.

I'm thinking the case for dude is in expletives and third person references. Like "dude, totally tubular" and "the dude in front of me ordered a coke".

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

ohhhh ok, yeah. gender neutral language is hard. usually for the latter i just say 'person' and for the former i just cuss. i do sometimes notice "man" slipping into my speech, like "man that sucked" and i try to avoid it but i'm only so successful. expletives are often less targeted at the conversation partner so it feels less problematic to me but i still think it's generally polite to avoid unless you know someone is chill with it

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I have trouble with it given my limited vocabulary. I'm trying to develop some good habits.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

"yo", " hey", "the person", " mate", "buddy", " pal"

going to be honest, though - directing any of these or even "dude"/"my guy" at the person you're talking to is fairly accusatory. you were pointed to the plural forms because they soften the blow.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Really? I thought "how are you doing, buddy?" Was more endearing than without the buddy part. Also didn't know mate, buddy and pal were neutral, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I was thinking mainly about leading a sentence with them:

"mate, what's going on?"

expresses more concern than

"what's going on, mate?"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I can see what you mean. Thanks again!