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Title is a reference to Resistance imagery about how Israeli soldiers will enter Gaza alive but leave it in coffins - the same is true for American soldiers in the Middle East if the regional war expands.

The image is of the Fattah-1 Iranian hypersonic ballistic missile, which its creators boast can overcome any missile defense system on the planet, has a range of 1400 kilometers (and thus Iran can strike Israel), and has a terminal impact velocity of Mach 13.


Dozens of American soldiers have been injured and 3 have been killed on a base in the Middle East. There has been confused reports about whether the attack was on Syrian territory or Jordan's - the Al-Tanf base is in Syria, but Tower-22 in Jordan is another base that helps supply Al-Tanf, and Tower-22 is the one that is alleged to have been hit. These is the first confirmed deaths of American troops since the conflict began, though it's not likely that this is actually the first deaths after hundreds of drone/missile strikes throughout the region on American bases, unless you think American soldiers are having extremely timely heart attacks just after a missile hits.

The attack is certainly impactful, though it does also have considerably symbolism. Courtesy of John Helmer:

The operational success of the strike for the attackers is strategic. Tower-22 is a logistics, supply, and rear guard post for the Al-Tanf base which US troops are operating thirty kilometres north across the border in Syria. The attack demonstrates that both Tower-22 and Al-Tanf, Jordan and Syria, are newly vulnerable to weapons which the US forces have failed to detect and neutralize. Just as significantly, the massive US airbase called Muwaffaq Salti, 230 kilometres west across Jordan, is also vulnerable now.

It indicates that Iran now possesses Russian expertise in countering American equipment:

“This is a significant accomplishment,” one of the sources said. “Was the bypassing of the US air defence system at Tower-22 pulled off with Russian assistance? US bases generally rely on the C-RAM [Counter Rocket, Artillery and Mortar] system. It was sent to Ukraine last year where the Russians have been learning to defeat it. What now of American EW [electronic warfare]? They’ve been doing a fair job of knocking drones down up to now. It seems a ‘coincidence’ that, not a week after the meetings in Moscow with Arabs and Iranians, we see this success. It’s a success the circumstances of which, we can be sure, Biden and Austin are not keen to advertise.”

I am putting my take on the table right now: I am 99% certain that the US won't attack Iran directly. I think we are still quite a while away from that being a possibility. Much more likely is that Iranian officials in Iraq or Syria will be hit by a retaliatory strike, as Israel has done recently. It is a significant escalation nonetheless. And it comes as Israel seems to be gearing up for a suicidal war with Hezbollah.


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[–] [email protected] 56 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

I never want to hear the word "Psy-op" again oh my god.

Jackson Hinkle and all these other freaks aren't "zionist psy-ops" you conspiratorial morons, they're just chuds. They hate Israel because they hate jews. They're "on the right side" on this one specific issue for the wrong reasons.

This is such bird-brained thinking.

Jackson Hinkle is a Nazi -> Hinkle says Israel is bad -> I also say Israel is bad -> I don't agree with Nazis -> Hinkle must think Israel is actually good -> Hinkle must be a psy-op

99% of the time when some idiot calls anything a psy-op it's just because they're incapable of thinking even one layer beneath the surface and have to therefore attribute everything to ominous puppet masters pulling the strings. Shut the fuck up. Right-wingers who hate Israel are not fucking "zionist psy-ops", they're just plain-ass antisemites. They've existed for as long as judaism has. Stop being conspiracy-brained idiots.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I don’t follow these idiots beyond what people have posted on this site. Call it an intuition, but I am calling psy-ops, either wittingly or unwittingly.

The reason is that some of the stuff they posted are way too specific and it tingles all my spidey senses as a student of Marxian economics.

One example is the often circulated “Starbucks baristas are not working class”. I don’t know of any right wing economist, including fascist economist, that would make a statement like this, because it implicitly means that teachers, nurses and doctors and other service workers are not working class, which is beyond absurd.

For a long time, I couldn’t understand this at all. However, when switching the perspective to view this statement from an orthogonal angle, it starts to make perfect sense. You see, for a long time, Marxists and classical political economists have been criticizing the neoclassicals/marginalists (like John Bates Clark) who claimed that there is no such thing as “unearned income” (income that did not come from producing real goods and services, i.e. rent and interests). According to the neoclassicals (later Chicago school), real estate is a service. Banking is a service. Insurance is a service. All of the people involved in these businesses are providing a service, and therefore service workers. As such, “no such thing as unearned income”.

The psy-op here is to bait uneducated online leftists into defending “service workers are working class!” which would then muddy the waters of “who are the service workers”. If you are also emotionally invested in defending service workers, it makes it easier for you to start defending real estate agents, insurance agents, bankers etc. Because they are all just part of the service industries, they are just workers providing a service, never mind the fact that the entire sector made their profits on collecting rent and interests, which Marxists and classical economists have said for a long time, are “unearned income”. If you don’t read theory, and don’t know the difference, a Starbucks barista might as well be the same as someone who works at the bank.

I would bet some kind of right wing billionaire connected to the Chicago school that is funding this kind of psy-ops. They may not even be aware of it, but they are given certain curated messages to spread. Or maybe I am just overthinking and these are the stupidest contrarians out there. Nonetheless, some of the claims they made are too specific and bizarre to not be connected to the neoclassicals.

Besides, we know that LaRouche was a fed. So these affiliates are probably not far behind.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

One example is the often circulated “Starbucks baristas are not working class”. I don’t know of any right wing economist, including fascist economist, that would make a statement like this, because it implicitly means that teachers, nurses and doctors and other service workers are not working class, which is beyond absurd.

Yeah, I think you're overthinking this. This nonsense is purely vibes-based rhetoric, with the narrative being "Starbucks baristas are blue-haired feminists with pronouns, real working class people work in coal mines" with the goal being to frame unionizing Starbucks employees as entitled liberal elites who want more money for their pumpkin spice lattes.

Their definition of "working class" is entirely based on vibes and they've been trying to push the "leftists/liberals are detached elites in their ivory towers, totally disconnected from real workers, no real worker cares about your virtue signaling" angle for ages.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Yeah. "Baristas are not working-class" is honestly something I'd expect to hear from a liberal. They generally think "working-class" just means hard manual labor (even more specific than their dumb "blue-collar" designation).

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

Some people turning themselves into pretzels to not acknowledge that antisemitism is a real thing when it has been a pervasive part of "christendom"/"the west" since antiquity is a weird thing. That Zionists aren't opposed to antisemites creating a hostile environment to drive immigration doesn't mean that the antisemitism was fabricated by them.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think Hinkle is a psyop. Not Israeli or CIA, but likely Russian lol

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

The guy was pelosi intern, an anti gun activist, hasan twitch chatter, pretty sure every great power has blackmail material against him to fuck over him lol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Jackson Hinkle and all these other freaks aren't "zionist psy-ops" you conspiratorial morons, they're just chuds. They hate Israel because they hate jews. They're "on the right side" on this one specific issue for the wrong reasons.

No, Hinkle has gone on record to say that he support(ed) Netanyahu, so he isn't one of those "j00s are worse than Ay-rabs" flavor of fascist. And I don't know about Zionist psyops necessarily, but patsocs are at least LaRouchite-adjacent, and LaRouchites are very much a psyop to funnel people away from genuine socialism and anti-imperialism.