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Junior Bake Off final was "coronation" themed. Ilhām, 10, was asked her opinion of the monarchy, I can't believe they aired her answer, but she gives me hope. (i.imgur.com)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Fair, but I just meant "Why are we still fighting the same battles for social justice and cultural progress as they were fighting 50 years ago, 1000 years ago, and 2000 years ago?"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Because evil happens -> people stop the evil -> people are happy for while -> people start forgetting about how bad it was -> evil starts happening again

Those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think that's pretty dismissive of the real problem. The real problem is that we (humanity) have a large portion of our population actively working to promote regressive and/or outright oppressive ideologies.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Because, IMHO, people forgot how bad those regressive tendencies since its been too good for too long unfortunately

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't think that last sentence paints the full picture, despite being catchy.

More often, things turn bad for a slew of different reasons.

Let's take the situation of abortion rights as an example. The people that have advocated for the end of all abortions in the US never believed abortion brought anything positive. It's not about history being forgotten, it's about a conflict between two groups of people having different opinions, and one imposing their belief on the other group.

I'm not saying this to sound smart. But identifying the proper reasons explaining a bad societal change helps determine where to target counter-actions.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And how are those people getting more and more people on their side? Not teaching history.

Book bannings, going against CRT, stuff like that. Makes it easier in the long run at least

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

That's besides the point. Your original formulation lets people think that everybody believed that abortion rights were a good thing at some point in history. Which is false.

The christofascists were always salty about their defeat. They waited until they were powerful enough to strike back, using mechanisms that are too complex to detail here.

While education is part of the retaliation against christofascism (and not just history education), Americans will need more than history books to fight back. This is far too simplistic.

Knowing who the enemy is - and there are identifiable enemies in this case - is crucial. And I think the saying you mentioned in your first comment is a bit of a thought-terminating cliché.

It sounds great, but it's kinda garbage.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Too long didn't read lol