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If Kenneth Eugene Smith is brought to the Alabama death chamber to face execution next week for his role in the 1988 murder-for-hire of a pastor's wife, the state plans to use an untested and untried method to end his life, suffocating him with a stream of nitrogen gas to be delivered through a face mask.

In a federal appeals court Friday, Smith's lawyers sought to block it, arguing that not only have Smith's constitutional rights been violated, but that he could be subjected to an agonizing death and that most of the details surrounding the state's new execution protocol "deserve more scrutiny."

The use of nitrogen gas will be a capital punishment first, even though it has not only been denounced by some medical professionals but also by veterinarians who oppose its use on animals. In 2020, the American Veterinary Medical Association advised against the use of nitrogen gas as a way to euthanize most mammals, calling it "distressing." One of the few uses of nitrogen gas in animal euthanasia is with chickens.

The United Nations' Office of The High Commissioner for Human Rights has expressed alarm, saying in a statement that the untested method "could amount to torture or other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment under international human rights law."

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 9 months ago (3 children)

This is so dumb I can't get my head around it. Put a man in a chamber, flood it with N2, painless, easy death. Hell, he even gets to go out high as a kite!

Are we all so ignorant that this isn't obvious?! FFS, I remember a tragedy where two teens died fucking in a giant helium balloon. They didn't know they were dying.

CO2 overload is what triggers the choking/suffering response. Our bodies have no way to detect a lack of O2. We'll happily breathe any non-noxious gas, as long as it's not CO2. Hypoxia don't sound like a bad way to go. .45ACP to the skull comes a close second, but I'd like to fade out stoned, given the chance.

Signed: Old guy with mild emphysema from smoking 20-years. I don't get short of oxygen, I get short trying to pump the CO2 out.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, for many proponents of the death penalty suffering is the goal.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

It’s not the proponents arguing against it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It is death penalty opponents that are against it.

The closest death penalty opponents have gotten to eliminating it is getting drug companies to stop supplying the traditional lethal injection drugs. With that, executions have ground to a near halt, as alternatives do not work as well and has been challenged.

But nitrogen is easy to obtain and painless. So if it gets used, there goes the need for drug companies. So opponents have taken to outlandish and disingenuous arguments claiming it is dangerous and painful despite plenty of evidence to the contrary. Once it is used for the first time, the experimental argument is dead. So they are desperate to avoid breaking the seal, as it were, on nitrogen asphyxiation.

Of course vets are against it. They have no difficulty getting the necessary drugs, and they have no desire to add new equipment for it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Vets also wouldn't want to have to put animals into a chamber or somehow mask them to kill them. Walking in with a syringe and 30 seconds later being done is super convenient.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nitrogen doesn't make you high.. you're probably thinking of N2O, nitrous oxide.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Lack of oxygen will get you high. Look up hypoxia.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I wouldn't really call that high

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

Euphoria and warmth are two really common symptoms of hypoxia.

But even then people who have dies in confined, oxygen-deficient environments, as long as they aren't high CO2, don't even realize anything is up until they pass out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

In diving it's called nitrogen narcosis. The effects are very like alcohol except you never get sick.