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Prosecutors will seek the death penalty for the white supremacist who killed 10 Black people at a Buffalo supermarket.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Costs money to pay for his living, food, room, guards, water, sewer plumbing, air, heat, AC

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

It costs a hell of a lot more to execute someone, believe it or not.

Edit: damn, y'all are some bloodthirsty motherfuckers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Only time it costs more is when the cops loses a lawsuit for unloading their clips on an innocent black person

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

on an innocent ~~black~~ person, sometimes also pet

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago

Only because the methods employed are stupidly wasteful and overcomplicated. The process needs to be overhauled in a logical and pragmatic way. The problem with current means of execution is that feelings were brought into the equation in the first place.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Then allow executions within days with cheaper, more humane methods like bullets. The only reason it's more expensive is because of you, and it should not be.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Speeding up executions means more innocent people will be wrongfully executed. How many innocent people are you willing to kill to make sure this this asshole fries?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Oh the fuck well, that's the price you pay for living in a society. All societies require their sacrificial lambs in order to prop themselves up because no legal system is perfect nor capable of being so, but we still have to put the well-being of our community above those who threaten or wrong it whether we make mistakes or not. And we give the state the benefit of the doubt in such circumstances because we accept that it's the only way a community can be functional and work without even WORSE sacrifices.

You're gonna tell me that we can't give life back to those we take it from knowing that's just as true with people wrongfully convicted and thrown in prison for life -- the people who you sentence to be raped, tortured, enslaved, and STILL murdered anyway because your selfish, entitled ass thinks your opinions are better than others. And you absolve yourself of responsibility for the extreme cruelty and suffering you cause by telling yourself, "Well at least they're alive," which is a cop-out.

It's far more humane to execute someone quickly after a trial because it minimizes the convicted's suffering, it's far better for the safety of the community because you are getting rid of a known offender even if the odds they're actually guilty aren't 100% perfect, it's much more morally conscionable than expecting the community and victims to live in fear of offenders and ultimately is the better, more moral way.

But you don't understand that because you're not emphasizing with anyone else, you only care about how you feel about death personally and that is 100% a you problem.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If we need to sacrifice human beings, would you like to volunteer? -.-

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I already have to no matter what I do, so I would rather be humanely executed with a bullet a few days after being wrongfully convicted for something than to be locked in a cage. No matter how gilded that cage is, it would still be a cage, and still a lifetime of unnecessary suffering that is inherently inhumane and cruel as opposed to simple death for which afterwards there IS no suffering, because I'll be fucking dead.

This is why you anti-death penalty ideologues are completely fucking unempathetic, irrational and completely lack self-awareness. You DON'T actually care about what's moral, simply dominating the conversation and being the ones to dictate to everyone else so you can feel like you're in control, and who cares about the deaths you personally cause or the millions of lives you ruin every day with your bullshit?

Or the genocide you're enabling?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How is executing someone keeping us safer from them than just throwing them in prison? Prison escapes, especially of dangerous, death row level offenders are exceedingly rare, at least in the US. People will point to deterrence, but no scientific studies have been able to demonstrate any significant deterrence effect of capital punishment. You're just killing people out of anger.

I get it, many of these offenders are abhorrent. I won't lose any sleep over the supermarket shooter getting his. But the death penalty should be abolished.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because that person is dead which 100% guarantees they will never harm someone again. Whether it deters other people or not is irrelevant. We're talking about him, this guy, and him alone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

So it's worth the false positive rate? Sacrificing one innocent out of every 20 executions is a good thing?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

You sound like a member of a Jim Crow era lynch mob. Screw due process, he just looks guilty. Yeehaw!

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago

And you know you don't have a rational leg to stand on, so when called out on your shit, you do what any self-righteous, self-involved dipshit does: fall back to tired old stereotypes and meaningless insults.

Why in the world would you think acting that way will convince anyone of anything? Convince me to change my mind?