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submitted 8 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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We did it!

https://nitter.net/luckytran/status/1742319364181787110

And we are probably a week away from the peak.

This is what we call an "exit wave", meaning we have reached super-herd-immunity!

Here's to another year of unpredictible worldwide waves and rapid mutations making vaccines obsolete before they are rolled out.

For financial reasons we shall now refer to it as an Endemic+ virus.

I look forward to having all mention of it in the news disappear as we get closer to next election.

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[-] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago

As a heads up, here's a chart that compares excess deaths to before 2020 without any assumptions: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores-average-baseline?country=~USA

It's never really gone below 10% more deaths. You can make your own judgement on which chart is more useful, but I think it's useful to understand the contexts of these calculations. The chart you shared (and the charts the CDC shares) are including pandemic years in their predictions for 2023, so of course excess deaths seem like they're back to "normal".

[-] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That's extremely sneaky by the CDC. Most of the other countries compare with deaths from previous years to make their projections on the original graph I shared, so it makes the USA look better by comparison. Compare this chart, with the projections, to this one, which just uses data from previous years. Suddenly the USA looks substantially worse versus South Africa...

There is something really wrong with the USA's projection if there's such a difference when compared to other countries projections. That is just data manipulation. That's honestly criminal by the CDC. Thank you for pointing this out and correcting my misinformation. Your contributions to this community in this regard are very valuable. Thank you for your patience when dealing with idiots like me.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

I definitely don't think you're an idiot, it was very intentional on their part. I appreciate the reflection and willingness to dig into what was going on, though!

[-] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

It's certainly less deadly, which is good but can change if a new crazy variant shows up, but I don't see why anyone is content with "Several times worse than a bad flu season, all the time". There's been 1000-2000 dieing of it a week since August, and the wave just starting to peak in most of the country, so we'll see how it goes. I think the first omicron wave was reported as mild, but it was still incredibly deadly.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Also worth noting that if we went back to "normal" we likely would also be seeing less deaths than pre-pandemic levels and negative excess deaths because the most vulnerable in society were killed off en masse the last few years.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Damn, I didn't even think of that. Just an extra layer of jesus-christ

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