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‘I would not have pulled Lush out of Russia if it weren’t for public pressure’
(www.telegraph.co.uk)
this post was submitted on 25 Dec 2023
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A cosmetics manufacturer alone? No.
All western companies leaving however can make an economic hit that will benefit Ukraine.
As for the Russians? They can revolt or do something, otherwise they suffer. Who cares about them.
They suffer if they revolt too.
Judging by your name, you're an Aussie and I've got to say, disappointed in your complete writing off of the entire Russian population. How the fuck is some young girl working at Lush supporting Putin or deserving of suffering if they don't revolt?
Her taxes directly support the war. It's not as easy as people are good and bad. Good people can be in bad situations. Sanctions are supposed to hurt all people. That's how they work. It's seen as a lesser evil, rather than a good. They are damaging for both sides.
So all the western companies that did leave at the start of the war… what effect has that had? The war still continues, Russia took over copyrights and trademarks to continue global brands going internally, and Putin is still President.
When is this economic hit supposed to happen and when will its effects cause this change everyone is claiming? It’s nearly 2024 and these companies left in March of 2022.
Russias economy is the effect it had, or do you think Russia today is in as good a state as before the sanctions?
You seem to expect an overnight collapse of society? The world doesn’t work that easily.
Russia’s GDP increased by 3.1% this year compared to last. The sanctions you mention did far more than western companies pulling their business from the country.
I’m not expecting an overnight collapse. I’m expecting quantifiable effects, such as those from the sanctions from other countries and the EU, that are actually measurable after 2 years.
I guess that makes me an asshole, though.
GDP is not an indicator of a healthy economy.
Likewise every action that hurts Russia is beneficial even if you personally can’t see the effects of it.
I just don’t see how it hurts Russia as a nation. I only see it hurting Russians who have nothing to do with the state’s actions.
Russians have everything to do with their states actions.
In fact they have more to do with it than anyone else on the planet as it is their responsibility
Again, this assumes Russia’s elections are run freely and fairly which we know is not the case.
Why would it assume that?
Revolt or die, idc.
You're a little flog sitting in your western first world nation home that mum and dad likely own and you're judging people on the other side of the world living under a dictatorship.
Absolutely no fucking idea.