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Genuine question.

I know they were the scrappy startup doing different cool things. But, what are the most major innovative things that they introduced, improved or just implemented that either revolutionized, improved or spurred change?

I am aware of the possibility of both fanboys and haters just duking it out below. But there's always that one guy who has a fkn well-formatted paragraph of gold. I await that guy.

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[–] [email protected] 125 points 10 months ago (4 children)

The graphical user interface.

They don’t invent it (xerox PARC did), but Apple correctly identified that the user experience of existing computer systems was holding it back from being a thing everyone owns, and made computers a bad fit for many types of work that seem extremely obvious now (digital media creation particularly)

They did this more or less again with the smartphone: business folks and super nerds were the smartphone market before Apple. Now it’s the average person’s computer.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

The graphical user interface.

A million times this. Not only did they popularize the ideas, but MacOS's UI design was so ahead of its time that it's barely changed since then. It was by far the most polished operating system at the time. Old Apple actually was innovating while the market was kind of stagnant.

MacOS Leopard screenshot

This screenshot was in 2007. The competition was Windows Vista. It's a night and day difference. I had this version of the iMac at the time and was super impressed, even if I did switch back to Windows a couple of years later. Looking back at it, it still looks quite "modern".

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago

Just to piggy back on this comment, OSX was released before 9/11 and windows XP, so Microsoft was still selling Windows ME at the time! Aside from the desktop backgrounds looked very similar.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've got an '08 iMac with this version of MacOS, El Capitan I believe. Going from that to my 2019 M1 MBP running Sonoma is really no different. Sure there's features missing but I can still sync my notes and the few other Apple things I actually use between the two.

Plus my iPods can still sync with both devices, they just moved iPod into Finder in the new versions.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It still blows my mind that Apple are so happy to drop OS support on iPhones and iPads that are considered too old, but I can still sync my 4th gen iPod with my M2 Air. There’s damn near 20 years between those two devices, but aside from needing a USB A>C dongle, they work together without any trouble.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well, I will say it's a little different. Your iPod doesn't get software updates or apps. From a functional standpoint it's about as supported as any old iPhone or iPad is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Yes, that’s very true.

It does make me laugh when it tells me that my iPods’ various softwares are up to date, and that it’ll check again next time. You can check, but you’ll not find anything…

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Time to schedule your colonoscopy gramps

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Well, KDE3 could look cool too.

I'll admit, back then I really wanted a Mac.

Just after trying to use them a few times I know that behavior is more important than appearance on screenshots. Also such looks exhaust you emotionally.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago (3 children)

and i think in general, their attempt to really focus on user experience first always seemed to define their business.. trying to make things that people would WANT to use was what made Jobs and Apple stand out.. other brands were better known for performance, for example..

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. They innovated

  • a GUI that people wanted to use and ushered in a new era of computer guys
  • several times a personal computer it laptop that people wanted to use and set new standards for others to follow
  • personal music devices that worked so well they set the standard.
  • a phone that just works and set many standards for other phones to follow
  • an App Store that set standards for usability and security, and set a high bar for others to follow
  • a mobile payment system that’s secure and private, and set a standard for the industry to follow
  • shared resources and config across devices and family members, setting new standards for usability and convenience

I could probably go on for a while. The thing is that everything in tech is an iteration: almost nothing is completely new. Apple has consistently applied design and usability to revolutionize many different areas of tech. It is true innovation with real change and huge impact

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Jobs really wanted to make tech usable for the mainstream. Just look at the first iPod all the other MP3 players at the time were for the geeks and music nerds. They were clunky, had ugly geek esthetics and the software was hard to use for most people. And the non techies had no idea where to get mp3s. The iPod together with the iTunes Store really sold the MP3 player to the masses.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

They don’t invent it (xerox PARC did), but Apple correctly identified that the user experience of existing computer systems was holding it back

Fucking everyone except Xerox BOD figured that out.