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“The rich gazed at their superyachts, and decided they were not enough. The new breed of megayachts, which are at least 70 metres (230ft) in length, may be the most expensive moveable assets ever created.”

“First and foremost, owning a megayacht is the most polluting activity a single person can possibly engage in. Abramovich’s yachts emit more than 22,000 tonnes of carbon every year, which is more than some small countries. Even flying long-haul every day of the year, or air-conditioning a sprawling palace, would not get close to those emissions levels.

The bulk of these emissions happen whether or not a yacht actually travels anywhere. Simply owning one – or indeed building one – is an act of enormous climate vandalism.”

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 10 months ago (3 children)

This is why I fucking hate the do your part bullshit.

Corporations and wealthy don't have the same pressure or responsibility, but it's us as consumers who have to put all the extra work and thought into changing our routines and habits (not to mention how much more it could cost)

Fuck these fucks. Greed killed the earth.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This is why I fucking hate the do your part bullshit.

Same thing with water usage. Our house had a nice, normal-sized lawn and we basically had to kill it a few years ago when the CA drought was really bad. It was a bummer because our house looked nice, but big picture, I understood why water restrictions were in place and did my part.

Meanwhile, there are 120+ golf courses in the Palm Springs/Coachella Valley area. Residential water usage in the state of CA accounts for like 10% of water usage and I'm over here having to kill my lawn. It was hard to reconcile those facts.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

California would probably have plenty of water if they didn't allow the cultivation of thirsty crops in the goddamn desert. Everyone talks about California regulations (there are some silly ones), but what sticks out to me the most is the corporate shit they refuse to regulate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

SO. MUCH. FARMING.

why the fuck is a decades long drought stricken state responsible for so many water heavy crops???? Or any crops really???

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

It's especially weird since we export so much water too. L.A. just happens to take... An inordinate amount.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Water law in the west is really weird.

It was developed around the idea that the first mine in an area could use the water that they wanted, and the next mine in the area could do the same only inasmuch as it didn't affect the water available to the first mine.

So you've got water rights that are primarily based on seniority and continuing to use your allotment so you don't lose it. That's not very well aligned with goals of conservation.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

The average carbon footprint in the US is 15 tons.

So the largest megayacht in the world pollutes as much as about 1,500 extra Americans.

Honestly, everyone needs to do their part. Billionaires, corporations and average Americans alike. It ain't gonna get fixed otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

I'm standing over my recycling bin agonizing over whether the plastic thing I've just washed out is recyclable or garbage, all while knowing my city doesn't even differentiate between the two. And then these guys will throw will have a party that has a bigger ecological footprint than I'll have on any year of my life.