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I may not be understanding correctly, but that seems like a huge downside to the current implementation of federation, and especially hurts new and small instances?
Using the user's profile example in the OP, one of them doesn't have comments from !lemmy.world/c/politics, so that means that no one on futurology.today has subscribed to /c/politics, and no results will show until someone does?
I see that https://futurology.today/c/[email protected] loads but the posts are all days old and there's no "top day".
That's correct.
In terms of data handling, everything happens locally on instances. So if the instance doesn't have the data, it can't display the data. There's currently no mechanism in Lemmy to backfill communities and user profiles: it starts collecting data as other instances start pushing the data after a user subscribes. No subscription no data. Although I'm sure if an admin really wants to, they could make a script to go fetch and backfill a lot of that data.
The big problem is that's really resource intensive, you're potentially downloading GBs of data from another instance. So I can see how the devs don't want a new instance to bring down other instances with massive data transfers.
Thus, the authoritative view of a profile or community is on the home instance of those. It will never be complete on other instances unless that instance is subscribed to every community the user has been active in. But that's fine you can just go visit the remote instance to browse that data.
I think it's not bad. Users can be active on instances I don't care about or like, but from my perspective and my subscriptions, the user is well behaved. I don't need to know they got 5000 points posting to shitposting meme communities on some fringe instance. It's not relevant to me or my users. I'm fine going to lemmy.world to view a lemmy.world user profile. Or maybe they collected -5000 points from lemmygrad, but on [email protected] they're well behaved and I don't need to be swayed by their negative points from another instance. I'd only care if I was participating on lemmygrad communities, and I would only see it if I'm subscribed to lemmygrad communities.
It is definitely a big downside for a lot of people, yes. And looks like you understood just fine, if you look in the sidebar of that politics community as viewed from futurology.today, the subscriber count reads 0 (because it also only shows the sub count from your instance). That's why new posts aren't being pulled in.
I've seen various discussions among server admins of how to handle it, I think some use a bot to basically sub to everything as a workaround to populate the All feed without real users being subscribed. If your server has a meta community maybe you can ask around there whether they're planning on anything like that?
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: [email protected]