this post was submitted on 21 Nov 2023
726 points (89.9% liked)

Unpopular Opinion

6315 readers
6 users here now

Welcome to the Unpopular Opinion community!


How voting works:

Vote the opposite of the norm.


If you agree that the opinion is unpopular give it an arrow up. If it's something that's widely accepted, give it an arrow down.



Guidelines:

Tag your post, if possible (not required)


  • If your post is a "General" unpopular opinion, start the subject with [GENERAL].
  • If it is a Lemmy-specific unpopular opinion, start it with [LEMMY].


Rules:

1. NO POLITICS


Politics is everywhere. Let's make this about [general] and [lemmy] - specific topics, and keep politics out of it.


2. Be civil.


Disagreements happen, but that doesn’t provide the right to personally attack others. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Please also refrain from gatekeeping others' opinions.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Shitposts and memes are allowed but...


Only until they prove to be a problem. They can and will be removed at moderator discretion.


5. No trolling.


This shouldn't need an explanation. If your post or comment is made just to get a rise with no real value, it will be removed. You do this too often, you will get a vacation to touch grass, away from this community for 1 or more days. Repeat offenses will result in a perma-ban.



Instance-wide rules always apply. https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

and no one irl even has the decency to agree with me because it's so fucking drilled into the culture that these fucking BuNsInNesSes have a Right to do this because it's a bSUsniEss. like oh yeah they have an office building so they definitely get to analyze my piss because they say they want to. sick fucking freaks.

preaching to the choir a bit on lemmy (or i would hope so at least) but still

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

It’s also an insurance thing. Drug testing programs are expensive, but the insurance companies incentivize it with huge discounts. It turns out that people who don’t do drugs are less accident prone and are usually a bit healthier too. This explains why US hospitals frequently test for tobacco use. It has nothing to do with the legality of use. This is why even with weed getting legalized many companies will still test for it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

People who do drugs are less accident prone?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Dammit. Fixed. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

And insurance is also the reason that you will have to pee for workman's comp claims regardless of whether or not your company has a testing policy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Thry test for tobacco use at hospitals?

You mean they test patients? Or employees?

As a smoker I’ve never heard of this. Also it’s legal so why not just admit to it?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Legally, where I live, healthcare workers have to change out of their scrubs, and leave the hospital/clinic area to have a smoke - as smoke can severely impact some patients health, and even residue on clothing has been shown to have a statistically significant impact.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They test employees. It’s often hospital policy that their employees do not smoke, and while I’m sure they dont like the look of nurses and doctors smoking on hospital grounds, its really that the hospital gets a big discount on employee health insurance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Weird. Most of the paramedics and EMTs I know smoke. Of course they are not actual hospital employees.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

It's also a getting federal money thing. Lots of grants or federal funds provided require drug tests, or having been tested.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

I would love to see the correlation between alcoholism and accidents. Bet that crowd is way more accident prone.