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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Recently learned this. Back in the day, women brewers would make beer in big cauldrons at the market place, wear big pointy hats so the customers could spot them easily, and had cats to chase away the mice that ate the raw materials. When monasteries started brewing beer they suddenly discovered that the women who were their competition were also WITCHES!!!!

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I wonder if that's actually true, but I don't want to know it isn't

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A bit searching confirms this. Turns out brewing beer was considered women's work originally, something done between taking care of the kids and making dinner.

Women were in general accused of being a witch because they did most of the child care, sick care and other jobs concerning people. If somebody died, and lots of people died of disease, bad hygiene and so on, they sometime blamed the nanny or nurse and called her a witch that cursed them. Men usually worked with inanimate things or animals where chances of being called a witch were much lower.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

History of the world condensed in one statement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Alewife" was the term for a female brewer, a common enough term that there's still a subway stop in metro Boston named Alewife.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I had to guess, I'd say that the name in Boston comes from the fish, given the area's maritime heritage. But the name of the fish probably came from their resemblance to the brewing ale-wives.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did not know that, thanks.

Now do Braintree. 😄

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If only I knew! 😀 I'm from Wisconsin, and know about alewives (the fish) because they're invasive in the Great Lakes, where they die off seasonally and wash ashore in large, stinky masses.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it plays into your biases then it's probably true.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Just the confirmation I was looking for.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

A cute just-so story, but i'd bet it's more complicated than that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sounds about right for every locally dominant organized religion.

(edit) the original comment, I mean. Not the reply.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I doubt you'd be boiling the wort at a marketplace, even for small beer you're looking at a week or more of ferment.

Selling it from a tun at the market, having a characteristic dress (and probably call), is very consistent with European retail traditions. "Fishwives" were famous for their shrill, sharp calls for example.

The modern equivalent I guess is the ice cream truck; they pretty much all have the same livery and play the same recorded organ tunes. Just imagine that approach for every product category.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Curious as to what your source for this is. A quick search turned up this article, which is prefaced by a lengthy editor's note regarding its veracity. The article as it now exists links to this article as the source of the claim

men accused female brewers of being witches.

This "source" doesn't even make that argument at all.