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Israel’s military has informed the United Nations that the entire population of northern Gaza should relocate to the southern half of the territory within 24 hours, the U.N. spokesman, Stéphane Dujarric, said late on Thursday night, adding that such a movement — involving over one million people — would lead to “devastating humanitarian consequences.”

“The same order applied to all U.N. staff and those sheltered in U.N. facilities — including schools, health centers and clinics,” Mr. Dujarric said.

The U.N. was told that the marker dividing the north from south was Wadi Gaza, the statement said.

The U.N. Security Council is scheduled to hold an emergency meeting on Friday afternoon in a closed consultation format

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[–] [email protected] 216 points 1 year ago (3 children)

While the Demographia report found Gaza City isn’t as packed as the world’s most dense cities, including Dhaka, Bangladesh, which has over 80,000 people per square mile, it’s more crowded than global cities, such as London, and three times more dense than Los Angeles, the most population-dense area in the US, according to the report.

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They’re telling 1.1 Million people to move in 24hours in an area more dense than LA or London. In an area without power, fuel, or food.

[–] [email protected] 154 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They know it can't be done and they don't care. The rhetoric coming out of their government is pure genocide talk. One of the military guys got furious that anyone cared about Palestinian civilians.

I hope the US doesn't support this or stay silent. We need to have the balls to stand up to allies when they're in the wrong. The world said "not again" to the holocaust and now regularly looks the other way, and it's time countries stop letting this shit happen.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago

You know the US won’t. The gov’t is too far up it’s own ass and only sees numbers. Israel is profitable to us, and money is the only thing anyone in power gives a shit about. They don’t care that we’re dealing with terrorists, as long as the terrorists make them money.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Never again! Except for Tibetans, Uyghurs, First Nations in boarding schools/their forced sterilization, the Khmer Rouge, Pakistan/India/Bangladesh, North Korea, Rwanda, all the genocides by the Soviets, Bosnia...

Hundreds of millions of lives ended prematurely...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Never again" is a phrase I learned in religious school as an American Jew, in the context of the contemporaneous genocides of WWI and WWII, and the genocides that were occurring in the 90s. I understand you're pointing out the hypocrisy of the Israeli government, but don't forget there are a lot of us out here who recognize genocide for what it is.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Never again is what was said after WW1, I'm not pointing out the Jewish hypocrisy, in pointing out the global hypocrisy.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

there are a lot of us out here who recognize genocide for what it is.

Yes, but we don't have seats at any of the tables where that matters.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree with the overall sentiment, but some of these mentions are not accurate and imo devalues the importance of such important accusations (e.g. since when was NK genociding anyone?)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well, it can't because congress is non functional.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hurricane evaculations over days are a mess even with power, fuel, and food...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The chaos with the with the evacuations is that everybody's driving in the same direction, and in Palestine, people don't have any vehicles.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

1million+ people on foot in a war zone all heading in one direction on war torn infrastructure will be a disaster even without cars.

Don't forget that the shelling has already been going on for awhile now.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

And all that assumes you’re actually physically capable of walking to the safe zone

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, it's the vehicles that are the problem and not a bunch of panicking people who don't know where to go or what to do.

I'm sure threat of imminent death at the hands of people who think they're baby-killers is probably not affecting them at all.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Come on man, use some critical thinking and context here. He clearly is not saying that cars some kind of an issue here. He was making an idle point about traffic jams in the US with hurricane evacuations and how that doesn't apply in this situation. He's not even making a value judgement on anything here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They made a direct comparison. They placed blame on how vehicles are the main issue, and how Palestinians dont have them.

Maybe use some critical thinking skills yourself.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Who did? I was responding to someone who brought up that issue, so my response was related to their point and my comment was mostly intended to focused on how the lack of certain resources could negatively impact those who are dependent on those things.

Otoh, the the difference in travel modalities makes a big difference in what problems there are and my comparison to hurricane evacuations obviously lacked in that respect. It's only natural someone would point out that limitation of my comparison.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Or fuel, remember, they don't have water, food or electricity.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They do actually! A journalist was talking about it on Radio-Canada earlier today, he's visited twice since 2017 (having come back a couple of weeks ago) and noted the contrast between fairly recent cars and horse carts using the same streets!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True... probably actually a benefit that they don't have cars as they're less efficient than just walking. But for those who physically aren't able to walk for hours straight (depending on how far they need to go), some alternative mobility is needed.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Yeah so uh… a bunch of people are gonna die in 24h :(