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Egypt intelligence official says Israel ignored repeated warnings of ‘something big’
(www.timesofisrael.com)
this post was submitted on 09 Oct 2023
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Not saying we should trust Netanyahu’s denial of this happening, but at the same time its not really reasonable to just trust an anonymous source in an ongoing conflict where public and international opinion matters a lot.
If there is more to this story then we probably will see more people confirming this in the near future.
Egypt and Israel have a long standing cooperation in intel and security. Egypt telling them this isn't some whisper by an anonymous source.
Shit happens. Zelenskyy also didn’t believe the US when he was warned against repeatedly about Russian invasion until it was too late.
I am not defending the Israeli government, in fact I think that this is entirely possible. I am just stating a fact.
I'm of the mindset Zelinskyy absolutely knew, but purposefully kept denying it was close on the horizon to calm his people and also not be accused of saber rattling. It was a de-escalation and obfuscation tactic in my opinion and I think it sort of worked to the ends he intended in subtle ways. Ain't no way you see that many troops massed at your border and think "Putin? That guy's chill. He just doing some exercises. He wouldn't be planning to invade me on the heels of an Olympic closing... Again."
There is a full on "fear of chaos" happening. Nothing can be happening without some intention. People can't fail, procedures can't fail an information can't be lost or misinterpreted. There must always be an all-knowing, bad actor failing on purpose.
Maybe my wording is not that clear, but I am just responding to this part of the article where the source for the story is clearly mentioned as an anonymous source.:
Depending on how you're interpreting this:
Anonymously talking with the media doesn't mean they were anonymously talking with Israel
Maintaining public anonymity does not mean the press didn't know who they were, and could verify that they knew what they were talking about.
I do agree that it's useful to maintain a certain level of skepticism... but that doesn't mean complete distrust of anything you're told. It's not unreasonable that Egypt had intel that an attack like this was coming, or at the very least that extremist elements were reaching a breaking point and something extreme was going to happen soon.
So far the most benefiting entities politically are: Russia and China (US attention might be divided and be forced to divert funds to Israel), Netanyahu (Isreelis were very divided in his support, this raises up nationalism and helps him to do more).
The Saudis potentially as well. They dont like Israel, but due to all the Iranian funding they really dont like Hamas. Getting them to kill each other and drain their coffers gives them some breathing room. Plus turmoil in the middle east = increased oil prices = more money for the Saudi Regime.
It’s not impressive. No one holds them to task because of their oil wealth. Typical born on third and thinking you hit a triple syndrome
Some Egyptian authorities have apparently denied this story, so it's all pretty murky right now.
But if it is true, Bibi is toast.
Bibi has been toasted so many times he's pretty much charred now. Just watch he's going to use this to his advantage.