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The mother of a woman whose body was paraded through the streets by Hamas has pleaded for help finding her daughter.

A video showing German tattoo artist Shani Louk on the back of a pickup truck circulated on social media after the Palestinian militant group Hamas attacked Israel on October 7.

Louk had been attending an outdoor "Festival for Peace" party near Kibbutz Urim when the area was targeted. First, rockets were launched, then gunmen and appeared and shot into the crowd, CNN reported. Party attendees told the outlet people immediately started to flee, passing dead bodies on the ground as they tried to escape the massacre.

The attack and resulting conflict has left hundreds of Israelis and Palestinians dead, with Israel's prime minister declaring war.

A video of a young woman with dreadlocks on the back of a pickup truck and surrounded by Hamas soldiers started circulating on social media shortly after the attack. In it, she appears stripped to her underwear, and her legs are bent at unnatural angles, while one soldier grabs her hair. People are also seen spitting on her body.

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[-] [email protected] 269 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

In it, she appears stripped to her underwear, and her legs are bent at unnatural angles, while one soldier grabs her hair. People are also seen spitting on her body.

And some terrorist supporters here on Lemmy were trying to explain to us that they were just casually "transporting" the body of a dead woman and that they weren't doing anything disgusting with her. We all know what islamist terrorists do when they spot a young woman, to pretend that Hamas is any different from ISIS is to be completely delusional.

Palestinians will lose more and more support (mine already) as long as they keep shielding the Islamist animals of Hamas.

EDIT: also thank goodness for [email protected], because others like [email protected] are run by terrorist supporters (see for yourself in their modlog: https://lemmy.ml/modlog/14788)

[-] [email protected] 93 points 11 months ago

So question, can you be anti terrorist and anti Israel?

[-] [email protected] 146 points 11 months ago

Why not? Hell I’m Jewish and I think the Israeli govt is regularly in the wrong and I feel for the people of Israel that could have better lives and those the govt harms. I also think Hamas is evidently wretched and those perpetrating these abhorrent acts deserve everything coming to them.

Unfortunately, while I’m sure Hamas will suffer, the civilians of both Israel and Palestine will once again bear the true cost of this conflict.

[-] [email protected] 76 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Jew here too, Netanyahu is a corrupt fascist cunt.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

how dare you! don't you know that the Palestinians mine controlled Hitler into doing the holocaust?

the scary part, Netanyahu said this, just less exaggerated.

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[-] [email protected] 69 points 11 months ago

I strongly disagree with Israel's policies regarding settlements, Palestinians in general, etc.

That does not excuse Hamas or their terrorism

[-] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

They're both kinda fucked really.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Israel is more fucked because they definitely have the resource to prevent this. How long can you deprive someone of their basic needs before their humanity is stripped away?

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[-] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago

I don’t support either group here. But the reason this continues to be such a contentious issue is the decades of mistakes and extreme conflict that lead to the current state of things there. The entire area has been in cyclic conflict for hundreds of years, this is merely a continuation of that with the complexities of post ww2 short sighted and racist policies enacted by the allied powers influencing the way things have played out.

Israel is a far right authoritarian state and they are brutal in how they choose to operate. Palestine is a hotbed for terrorism and is equally brutal in the guerrilla tactics they employ.

External influence from western and Islamic countries fuels the flames. It’s a disaster and a mess.

There’s genuinely no two state solution. As long as these two groups share this place they will always fight. And there’s no resolution that doesn’t see everyone else dragged into yet another proxy war.

Personally I think this will see some of the most major developments in this conflict in decades. The repercussions of this act will be large scale and relentless. But the Israelis will quickly find themselves in a quagmire if they try to occupy Palestine in any major capacity. It won’t be over quickly. Many will die.

But I suspect that’s where we are heading.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

The entire area has been in cyclic conflict for hundreds of years

There were essentially no Jews (<2%) living in the areas of Israel and Palestine before the Zionist colonization movement in the late 1800's.

You're trying to make it seem like this modern day thing is even remotely related to the past, which it isn't.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

There’s a clear distinction between the sort of age of crusades and modern post ww2 geopolitics that generated the current conflict, but to suggest that there’s not been a near continuous level of conflict in the area between Jews, Muslims, and Christians is disingenuous.

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[-] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago

Sure, you can always be hated by everybody. That's generally my MO in most things. I think Hamas is a terrorist Islamic group and the Likud are ur-fascists.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

You can do anything as long as you work hard and believe in yourself

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[-] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago

Both things can be bad… you know that? Right?

[-] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

And sometimes one side is much worse than the other.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago

So which far right extremist theocracy is worse in this case?

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

I never exactly condoned them, but this is the first time in my adult life they've gone out of their way to personally harm innocent civilians. It's such a shocking and brutal display that I don't know how anyone could carry water for them anymore -- at the very least, this makes them equal to the Israeli government, so someone whose horrified at the treatment of Palestinians by Israel should be just as horrified here.

It bears mentioning that in no way does Hamas represent all Palestinians, too. Hamas is hurting them too by hiding in civilian buildings and using the people effectively as shields. It's unconscionable to hide in hospitals and mosques after doing something like this, they're purposely daring Israel to make everyone around them into collateral.

It is in everyone's benefit for Hamas to be wiped out and destroyed.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

It's possible to oppose Hamas and the Israeli government at the same time. Hamas being fundamentalist terrorists doesn't retroactively justify the Israeli government forcing millions of people into ghettos without access to clean water and regularly subjecting them to state violence. Or the ongoing settlement program, where Palestinian towns are forcibly evacuated and their property/homes stolen and given to Israeli settlers.

Two things can Both be bad at once, especially since the only reason Hamas exists is because of the desperation of Palestinians caused by Israeli state policy. Netanyahu's government even gave them money at one point, because Hamas is good for his political goals. Hamas prevents a more democratic, progressive resistance to the occupation from forming, which makes it easier for Netanyahu's government to justify their ongoing genocide/ethnic cleansing.

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