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As I said, comrade, it's his fault and it's clear for everyone to see that he's a dirty hypocrite liar for trying to imply otherwise. Very terrible president, just like Eisenhower.
all presidents are terrible
So, more-or-less equally terrible or would you say that there's a rough ranking to it? Who's making it into the list of top 10 worst?
You're asking who the best manager was at the factory that turns children into sausages. America itself is ontologically evil and no president can salvage or reform it.
Abraham Lincoln is the closest a president came to being good, and even he was complicit in genocide. Every other president is equally terrible, on a scale of goofy evil to soullessly evil because the office of president is to administer a genocide machine. Jimmy Carter is one of the former presidents who seems aware that he's going to hell when he dies and is probably a little remorseful, but that doesn't excuse him at all. Theodore Roosevelt also seemed aware he was evil, but that might have just been his vanity.
Fair enough, I suppose with 46 of them they all sort of blend together after a point. I too have a soft-spot for Lincoln... so I suppose it's some small consolation for me that we'll one day have a chance to meet each other in hell
At least Lincoln killed some slavers, at the end of the day, so I gotta give him some points for that
Honestly just read Liberalism: a counter History. I lost my soft spot once I realized his philosophical underpinnings weren't any better, he just happened to be positioned in material reality in a way where shitty stuff had small good effects. Critical support was a good idea for him in that time, because he happened to represent a force aligned against the greatest oppressors of the most revolutionary class (the enslaved). But now that he already won, critical support means you can throw him away and realize it was only s tactical correct choice, not any good outside of that
Lincoln least terrible, Trump funniest, Obama the most disappointing,
No Nixon is the least terrible, he had the conscience to resign. Also made the EPA and OSHA, ended Vietnam, created universal dialysis, and opened trade with China. Lincoln still presided over native genocide
This is a half joke fyi
true, we must also take into account his wonderful futurama appearances
arrrrroooooo
I'd put Grant at least terrible -- he was still a genocidier but at least he tried to push through a real reformation in the South after the civil war. worst? I barely know where to start, there's so many good choices.
You have literally no argument nor basis for your beliefs except for incredulity at their antithesis.
Correct. I thought it was a funny conclusion and so I made fun of it. What's the harm in allowing a fool to fool around? I didn't really think I was doing something so grand as threatening to present a thesis.
You aren't threatening, you're just a jackass who is doing the "democratic presidents can't do anything good, but they do their best for us" routine that we've all seen a thousand times
Well, thank you for saying so... sometimes I can get a little self-concious about things like that. Next time I'll try to bring better material!
Lmao using 2010 internet sarcasm doesn't mean you have a point
I'm sorry, 420blazeit69, it seems like nothing I say will ever convince you guys to like me. I'll go back to 2010 where I belong now.
The Carter administration is responsible for helping start one of the most devastating proxy wars in recent history, by arming anti Soviet extremists in Afghanistan in July 1979. Whatever happened to those extremists, one might wonder?
They pulled themselves up by their bootstraps and became the world's #1 heroin exporters.
Wonder whatever happened to this guy that the USA helped arm? Did he do anything significant since then?
It's the Northern Alliance that were the big opium producers, under US occupation. The Taliban actually banned and restricted it both before the invasion and after re-taking power.