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To add to the other responses, after you recovered your stuff you could probably like moving to an immutable OS if you risk having power issues often, the transactions won't be applied until everything is done so if anything happens during a transaction you'll just remain at your last usable state
I had the same thought, but didn't want to sound insensitive.
Saying "Your fault, using Arch for something important is a bad idea, you should have made a backup before", while he fears all his important data is gone, would have been rude and very unhelpful.
But immutable distros solve these issues, yes. Since I switched to Silverblue I've never been more relaxed than ever. If something goes bad, I just select the old state and everything works, and updates never get applied incompletely like here.
I'm sorry if I sounded insensitive, it wasn't my intention, just thought that since many others had already given a solution to the data and even OS recovery I could chip in to add something that they might find useful, if they don't mind switching away from Arch.
I hope mine would be a reassuring suggestion more than anything
You didn't! :) You couldn't have said it better, especially in your answer here!
As I said, I had the same thought as you with immutable distros like SB or Nix.
I just didn't have much to add as an additional comment besides "Kids, this why you should always backup and maybe use an immutable distro if you can".
As someone who values robustness and comfort, I wouldn't touch something arch-based even with a broom-pole.
If I wanted something that's a rolling release, I would use Tumbleweed or it's immutable variant.
For me at least, the only pro in Arch is that you can configure everything exactly to your imagination, if I know exactly what I'm doing. And EndeavorOS is pretty much a pre-configured Arch that removes the only USP of it, the DIY-element.
I don't see myself as competent enough to maintain my arch install, but I can access the AUR with distrobox on every other distro, like Silverblue, too, so I don't care. The big software repository isn't an argument for me in 2023 anymore. With distrobox my arch stuff is isolated and if something breaks, I can just forget my two installed apps and reinstall this container in 2 minutes.
It's just an unimaginable peace of mind for me to know that if I shut down my PC today it will work perfectly tomorrow too. I'm just sick of reinstalling or fixing shit for hours every weekend. I'm too tired for that and have other responsibilities.
But yeah. My thoughts were exactly the same as yours and I didn't have much more to add besides saying "Hey, do xy that this won't happen anymore in the future" without sounding like Captain Hindsight from South Park. Context
You took the words right out of my mouth.
Btw that clip was hilarious, I hope I don't come off like that often lol
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It happens, that's less of a worry then
Note that this isn't about immutability but atomicity. Current immutable usually have that feature aswell but you don't need immutability to achieve it.
Yeah you're right, however searching "linux distro with atomic updates" doesn't seem to turn up much, as you say, in most cases the two features happen to come together and the distros that have them are mostly known for the former