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Lots of things I'm really interested in are looked down on by other adults I know. I love animation but it's seen as something for kids. I love video games, but that's for teens, incels and nerds. And I love birdwatching, but that's for boring old people. Oh and also whatever my ADHD is making me hyperfocus on at any given moment. I could talk about any of those topics for ages, but more often than not people aren't interested, so I keep it to myself.
We should be friends. What's your favorite animated film and/or video game? For me, WALL-E and Borderlands 2. Both for technical reasons more than entertainment reasons.
Hard to pick but for the longest time my favourite animated film was How to Train Your Dragon, the firdt one is really charming. There's so many good ones to pick from. Wall-E is a great movie, and the soundtrack composed by Thomas Newman is just, chef's kiss, y'know? Have you ever watched song if the sea? Another good one with a great story and beautiful music. Do you watch animated series? Anything you particularly enjoyed lately?
Favourite video game right now is Hollow Knight, even though metroidvanias aren't necessarily my thing. I've never played Borderlands, what's the gameplay like?
Borderlands is a looter shooter. You shoot things, they drop bigger guns, you shoot bigger things that drop even BIGGER guns. It's the FPS version of Diablo.
I specifically love #2 because of the writing. Sure, they have middle school jokes that involve Bonerfarts, but under it's goofy surface, it pulls you in and builds these characters around you, and it does NOT hold back from throwing you curve balls!
That game honestly made me laugh AND cry multiple times.
I might check it out then. Shooter games aren't really my jam but I play Fortnite and Overwatch with my son from time to time and he loves it, so maybe I check it out with him. He might be too young for it though.
Borderlands is soo fun! I'm not the person you're replying to, but I love it, soo... It's mostly run-and-gun, but there's some puzzle-solving, and some light tactics. Very lighthearted fun, the game is terribly self-aware and loves to take the piss out of you and itself.
Is it very violent/bloody? Sounds like something my son would like (he enjoys Fortnite and Overwatch), but he's only 10.
Lots of blood and gore—but the game is cell-shaded, so it's quite cartoony.
Biggest risk is that the humour can be very... risqué. But different people parent differently, and I'm not about to tell you what to do.
Probably safe from 13 in my book, but I think the official ratings are way higher (17-18).
Yeah you never know with age ratings. I found fortnite to be ok even though it's rated 12+. Deep rock galactic is rated 16+ but apart from the odd swear word (which, frankly he'll hear more often from me) I find that quite exaggerated. If there is a lot of gore and blue humour I'll wait a while before trying it with him.
I love animation so much, and I'm desperate to talk about some of the shows that don't have much of an online following. Like, Summer Camp Island is such a wholesome and fun series, but I don't know anyone else who has watched it.
Also still so gutted about what happened with HBO Max, I really thought animation had found a home.
We are kindred spirits! I am devastated at what's happened with HBO Max, I will forever be salty that they gave up on Infinity train! And netflix too, dropping glitch techs, dead end, and inside job. So many good shows without closure.
I'm heartened that some indie artists are starting to go their own way online. Lackadaisy, Helluva Boss, monkey Wrench. It's promising and could be the future of animation, but requires a lot of patience for now.
I started Summer Camp Island but dropped it along the way. Maybe I should pick it back up again. What other shows are you desperate to talk about?
Oh man, I'm so excited that Lackadaisy got the full funding for 5 episodes and three minisodes, it's one of the most successful fully indie series I've seen other than Helluva Boss. I've been following the comic since for like 15 years, it's crazy to see it suddenly blow up and launch a series. I also love other webtoon stuff like A Fox in Space, Big Top Burger, and anything by Felix Colgrave (I've watched Donks more times than I can count).
For shows, I know Bee and Puppycat isn't for everyone, but I absolutely adored that show. It makes me feel some sort of way with its mix of silliness and melancholy. Also Hilda! I've seen it mentioned more often than this other stuff, but I feel like everyone really needs to watch it. The movie was a great cap to the series, though I wish the series itself was longer. Perhaps its better to end on a good note though.
I've actually only watched the first two seasons of infinity train, I really need to get back into it. I was so surprised by how brutal the second season got. I think I just haven't continued it because I feel like I'll just miss Lake.
It's always so delightful to see a pilot finally get to spawn a series years later. Starting with Adventure Time and going through Steven Universe, OK KO, Infinity Train, Bee and Puppycat, and soon Lackadaisy, it's been so fun to see series get to expand (even if their time got cut short, like my beloved OK KO). Are there any pilots you've enjoyed seeing turned into series, and are there any that you're hoping get picked up?
I'm super excited for Lackadaisy too - the pilot is of such amazing quality, even some major established shows don't match it. I also loved Bee and Puppycat, and Hilda, really whimsical. Also loooooved OK KO. Have you watched Wander Over Yonder, or Mao Mao: Heroes of Pure Heart? I feel the humour is very similar. Another couple of shows that were cut too short (at least the former provides some closure).
I have to say Infinity train doesn't get any less brutal, and I definitely get missing Lake. Still think it's worth watching the next seasons as there's some continuity in the story (which HBO should let them finish dammit).
To be fair I really got into animation shows (as opposed to movies) around the time of the pandemic, so I missed most of the pilots. I am excited to see what happens with Hazbin Hotel, and other online projects like Talon, and Hugo's Mind Palace. If you haven't yet, I really recommend watching the shorts on the Gobelins school animation page. Some of them are mind-blowingly amazing.
If I were to ask which are your top 5 shows, would you be able to pick?
I haven't been able to get into Wander Over Yonder, but I want to give it another try. I have seen the "bad guy" song... A lot. It's very catchy, and goodness did the animators have some fun. I also saw the pilot for Mao Mao, definitely gonna put it on my list.
It's crazy that Infinity Train was so popular and they still don't want to give it the time of day. It's how animation has been treated for a long time, though.
Top 5 is tough, I think in no particular order:
There's so many I want to squeeze in there though!
How about you? I'm honestly glad to talk to a new watcher, some long time fans can be weirdly dismissive of new stuff and it's pretty frustrating.