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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There's no good, non reactionary reason to be seeking out arguments with vegans.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, good, we're all very impressed that you know that word. They literally are pigeonholing you... and what's your point?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

they're not engaging with what I'm saying.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

lol what are you saying? That you enjoy arguing with vegans?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Please don't feed obvious trolls

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

uhh...so how would you have preferred to have been engaged with?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they could have actually said something on the topic instead of trying to cast me as some kind of malicious actor. or they could have just moved along instead of attacking me personally.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You proudly admitted to being some kind of malicious actor

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

arguing with people isn't malicious.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What you're saying doesn't deserve engagement, you deserve nothing but mockery and vitriol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

this is just posturing and rhetoric. i don't think it's appropriate for this community.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

is this an appeal to ridicule?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

You are pigeonholing my utterances as logical fallacies. debate-me-debate-me You are committing fallacy fallacy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

🤓 woah was that a fallacy? im very cool, shouting “fallacy” whenever im in an argument

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i just think it's an enjoyable intellectual exercise.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If this is what exercising your intellect looks like I guess you need it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

your insults don't undermine anything i've said. you're only telling on yourself.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

You should try remembering the animal, too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

shut up. ur being an obnoxious lib. calling you out on this isnt sectarianism

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

so the guy who's hobby is "ethical philosophy" gets no judgement, but when i find a topic that touches on ethics, ecology, economics, anthropology, biology, nutrition, and politics, i'm a reactionary if i use it as a hub to reach all those other discussions.

are you afraid i might actually know what i'm talking about?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

"Are you afraid of my debate prowess?" debate-me-debate-me
You don't get to act so smug and assured when you're going to bat for the dominant ideology.

No, you're a reactionary because vegans are right and you're starting right off with the slimy "debate" techniques. It's very clear to me that your only goal is to "look right" in front of everyone, rather than actually engage.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

No, you’re a reactionary because vegans are right and you’re starting right off with the slimy “debate” techniques. It’s very clear to me that your only goal is to “look right” in front of everyone, rather than actually engage.

this thread is about what i enjoy. you're derailing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

your only goal is to “look right”

no, it's to have fun.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, you’re a reactionary because vegans are right and you’re starting right off with the slimy “debate” techniques.

not only am i not slimy, this sentence belies an inability to engage with the material, attacking form rather than substance.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thanks for the dozen replies. I never expressed any intention to engage with you about veganism only to point out the reactionary tendencies you're displaying.

Yes I'm ad homing you right now. That's the purpose of my interaction and you're actually the one derailing, from my perspective.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

find a thread that's not about people enjoying hobbies

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Find a hobby that isn't reactionary.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i don't have reactionary hobbies.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm linking this thread next time someone tells me vegans are insufferable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"I enjoy going on the internet and picking fights with vegans, but it's the vegans who are insufferable"

please fuck off back to reddit

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

great, I'm telling you what to do. Fuck off back to reddit

that or post hog liberal

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

i'm an anarchist

In a "no veggies at dinner, no naptimes" way?

ancap-good

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

coulda fooled me, all the anarchists I know are vegan

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Go tell the mods I Ad Homed you. I will cherish that ban.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

you haven't explained what you tihnk i've done that's reactionary. this is just libel.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You don’t get to act so smug and assured when you’re going to bat for the dominant ideology.

how do you think i'm going to bat for any ideology at all? it's just an intellectual exercise.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey, that's me! There's actually a "debate a vegan" muni on lemmy, if you didn't know. I almost subbed. I'm a three-time former vegan. Sounds more impressive when you say it like that, doesn't it?

No but I get you. Arguing is fun as long as the stakes aren't too high (pun intended).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

The thing is that on leftist forums, the stakes for a veganism debate are pretty high cause it easily causes a 50-50ish flameout.

Mods would appreciate if people like OP didn't intentionally troll to stir that sort of thing up (if the discussion takes place organically and respectfully, then whatever).

Mods would also appreciate if people didn't feed obvious trolls who are just starting things up, like you pointed out, there are specific places to post about that sort of topic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

more pigeonholing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

you don't know me.