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I've been seeing some concerning trends whereby anti-vaxx posts are defended as "free speech" and a growing number of users with "Trump Won" sentiments.

Is there going to be a stance taken on this? Or are we going to lose this community, like so many others, to propaganda and hatred?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I def don't want this instance to be full of the reactionary anti-vaxx spam you see on the "free speech" reddit alts (which we are not a free speech instance obvi). Regardless of how their views differ, their hyper-individualized plague-spreading ethos is not welcome here. I've found they either don't think covid exists, or it isn't dangerous, and even if it is, its better that grandma die on the freedom altar... more important than lives, is their Freedom ^TM^. This captures it:

At the same time we should allow discussion as long as its respectful, especially on things like efficacy of various measures taken, specific vaccines, etc. I think its entirely pointless because I greatly doubt we have any epidemiologists here, but I guess that's what some people like to spend their time on.

I banned @[email protected] btw yesterday I think.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Good catch, I instantly pointed that out.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It doesn't seem to matter. I've seen 3 posts today, all with an admin telling people not to report anti-vax posts because there's no rule.

"Lemmy, a community of liberal privacy and FOSS enthusiasts..."

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Personally I feel nutomic is somewhat right and wants to keep the cautionary tale in mind and in vision, whereas dessalines knows the balance.

I can guide these people with my experience if needed (and as I have done in helping shape Lemmy). It is not hard to identify the issues if you can make sense of the chaos and have your moral compass functioning well.

BTW it is leftist, not liberal

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I know, about the leftist correction, I was making a commentary on how liberal it is to allow an Anti-vaxx mandate discussion as if it's not a thinly cloaked excuse to legitimize sharing a substantial amount of vaccine misinformaiton.

I think when we start allowing bad-faith efforts to hide worse things we open the door for all of the same sad excuses that lead to the failings of voat, mewe, gab, and literally everything else that started to get away from that shit, and it just fills on in anyway.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 years ago

Yeah I know that, I will put myself on the frontlines as much as possible to keep this platform healthy. Lemmy is probably the last hope and is THE forum platform to replace Reddit going public by March, and the push is needed highly. We need this platform to stay sane and just open enough at the same time. Careful balancing act.