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'Have a second look': Surge in motorcycle deaths prompts desperate plea to drivers (www.abc.net.au)

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[+] [email protected] -8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, I'm saying it's weird to ask everyone to care more about someone's health and safety than that person does.

Motorcycles aren't as safe as cars, even if everyone is careful. Accidents happen, and cars have seatbelts, airbags, and a shit ton of other modern inventions.

Motorcycles have helmets and leather jackets, both of which aren't required everywhere so motorcyclists don't even wear them all the time.

If you cared about motorcyclists, I'd think this time would be better spent trying to make motorcycles safer by pushing for legislation.

Hell, they made those inflatable cocoons that go off like a giant airbag years ago. I've never seen one on the road, because they're not "cool". And if someone values safety over coolness, they wouldn't be on a motorcycle at first

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, I’m saying it’s weird to ask everyone to care more about someone’s health and safety than that person does.

Now do "provocatively dressed women are asking to be raped..."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There’s a difference between what is fair and what is common sense. If I had a daughter I would love to tell her she should go wherever she wants, whenever she wants, alone or drunk.

In practice I’m sure I’ll temper that message with some sad but realistic advice about having a friend on the phone while in the cab and never accepting drinks from strangers.

Motorcycle riders choose to put themselves in a much much more vulnerable state, so they have to be more aware and more vigilant. In an ideal world everyone is paying attention and awake and sober on the road, reality is different and I won’t be betting my life on everyone around me driving correctly while riding a petrol tank strapped to a motor.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

This is the nuance that givesomefucks failed to express.
Long term motorcyclists are aware of the choice they have made.
That doesn't abrogate other drivers of their own responsibility.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Oh wow, slippery slope?

People are just busting out the classics today, aren't they?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

but, won't car drivers being more aware help? if that's a big factor, wouldn't it be good to address?

if i'm reading this right, you don't think car drivers should have to worry if they're going to kill someone, because you think that person deserves it due to the risk they personally took on?

you think it's too much to expect someone driving a safer vehicle to drive safely and not kill other people? you resent being told to pay basic attention while driving a car because if you hit someone that isn't also in a car, they might die and that pisses you off?

wtf?