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[–] [email protected] 109 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

Congrats to all the "both sides are the same" folks who stayed home and handed this election to Trump.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago

Same for the “establishment Democrats suck so I didn’t vote” as well. Because trump is so much better.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago

we won‘t win against these politics of resentment with resentment against potential allies

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 hours ago (6 children)

65,000,000 eligible voters don't vote. Should have fought harder to get those butts off the couch to vote than just "but Trump". If you don't excite the base, they're not going to go out and vote.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I feel like if we were in a horror movie, and I told you Michael Myers was coming to kill us, you would have just sat there telling me you're tired and I need a reason for you to get up beyond "but Michael"

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Not voting is an action. An action that says, "either is fine"

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Preventing fascism isn't exciting. It's a necessity. It's the civic equivalent of brushing your teeth.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah that doesn't work. Making that argument again and again and not responding to the above critique is why Trump won.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Trump won because millions of people were swayed by propaganda and misinformation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Or here me out, they saw both sides as moraly reprehensable, not neccisarily equaly so, but enough that they would not be able to sleep at night giving either of them their vote, and tasid suport for what they are doing. As much as people here like to claim your really voting aganst the other guy, the vote is still for one side.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

There was a lot of propaganda going around, but the Dems decided their message was to be in denial about the economy and to court the Republicans who were too sexist to vote for a woman anyway.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The problem is the Democrats told the truth about the economy. They said it was getting better slowly over time and that prices were never going to go back to what they were before Covid. People would rather hear Trump's comfortable lies than face the uncomfortable truth.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Regular people associate "the economy" with their own subjective bubble. Regular people are dumb as fuck and the Dems shouldn't pretend like we are a country with free education where people make collected and informed decisions.

Despite the dems prepping the macro economy to distibute wealth to workers, the workers did not feel that wealth.

It was a good economy for transitioning us to EVs, bad for affording human needs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Look around the world. Incumbents lost all over because of the economy. It's not a Democrat problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Then they shouldn't lie to people and say that the economy is good.

Because the quality of life of their voter base has diminished since Covid.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Biden hopefully will be the last "must secure the center" democrat. The winner in American elections is the one that has their base turn out more. If you do things to appease the center at the expense of the base, expect to loose.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Considering there's no one from any left aligned party holding district wide, state wide or better. This comment is at best delusional.

If us leftists were the panacea many like to paint us as. We'd already be holding more offices than we do. Regardless of the NeOlIBeRaLs!

I think they'd do well to move more leftward. Benefitting the common man. Marginalizing any sort of economic liberal. But a lot is going to have to happen before that. And even then we will still need them more than they need us. Because honestly what's the left's excuse otherwise? We could if we wanted to, and oh you wouldn't know our voters. She lives in Canada?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

Unfortunately the Neolibs would rather burn the country to the ground than lose control of the Democratic party

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago

Well they can be excited about the new gender options now

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe this needed to happen as a matter of karma and punishment, for complacency and stupidity. Its just a sin others have to suffer for morons who dont know any better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I doubt it as I'm gonna be punished for this even though I did everything I was supposed to.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It already happened in 2016 though.

People are crazy if they think this will be the time the Dems learn their lesson. They haven't learned it for decades.q

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

no joke, I'd take the last time any day of the fucking week, the world is infinitely worse position for a manchild and an entourage of tech fascists to be taking power, we're essentially already in the opening stage of WW3 because of Putin's fantasies.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

well, yeah. That's why last time should have been the wake-up call, because now it's too late.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

too late to solve the problems by legal means, sure.

but if they make a move on anyone, like for real. there's gonna be bodies on both sides. they aren't the only ones with weapons. and worse for them, they've convinced some people they have nothing to lose now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

White men/women, and hispanic men were the demographics that stayed home

The youth vote didn't change in any meaningful way