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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 day ago (5 children)

You can safely cook chicken to be medium rare, buuuuuuuuut only via sous vide. You would need to get it up to at least 140F, and then keep it there for between 30 and 360 minutes, depending on how thick the piece of chicken is.

Personally, I would not want to. I enjoy beef carpaccio and steak tartare, i enjoy some sushi and sashimi, but poultry and pork, IMO, should be cooked.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (4 children)

They do eat raw chicken in Japan, but I guess you have to treat it the same way as raw fish to be sanitary (fast freezing for 24h to kill parasites and bacteria).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Chicken sashimi is about to be taken off the menus in Japan, as even their way more sanitary ways led to quite a number of health incidents.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Just be warned that not all bacteria and parasites can be killed with a hard (0F) freeze. IIRC, there are a few parasites found in feral pigs and bear that are very freeze resistant. I think some variety of trichinella? I don't think that poultry is susceptible to trichinella infestations, but most chickens aren't kept or slaughtered in very sanitary conditions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

I thought this was a myth

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They don't have the same diseases as America, so it is safe to do that there. If you tried that here, you will put yourself on a surprise weight loss vacation.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The same disease part or the barfing out the ass part?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Same diseases. They absolutely have ecoli and salmonella.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

They might have them but I assume they vaccinate the chickens against salmonella which the US refuses to bother with and you don't get e coli from the inside of meat, you get it from contamination.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago

Salmonella can be killed at less than 140 if it's for long enough, you can sous vide chicken reasonably safely down to 135 or maybe even push it a little lower. HOWEVER this will not be medium rare. Medium rare is 130. 135-140 are solidly medium, barely a blush of pink at that temp really.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Pork can be done all the way down to medium rare now that Trichinosis has basically been eradicated from pork. Though most say it's best at medium.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ill stick with slow cooking it until its almost falling apart

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Just eat it raw like they do in Germany 👍🏻

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

No amount ot convincing will ever get me to try Mett

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Pork can also be eaten raw, if you slice it into thin slices like bacon, and put it in a laser cutter that only fry the fat. (take a picture, use image manipulation to make a mask that guides the laser cutter)

Should be completely fine TM

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Accurate. You could do this in an oven or grill too, but you might dry things out some. It's all about the meat's internal temperature and time. If the meat could reach 165° F instantly it would kill everything. If you hold it at 120° F for two hours you kill nearly everything.

https://www.canr.msu.edu/smprv/uploads/files/RTE_Poultry_Tables1.pdf

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Keep in mind that the temperatures refer to the coldest part; until all internal temperatures are at least 120, you can't start your timer.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

100%

Temp of the coldest part and the quantity of time it's held at that temperature.