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Twitter, owned by Musk, fought for months for the right to tell Trump about Special Counsel Jack Smith’s search warrant for his account.

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Oh boy, the next few months are going to get exciting.

Initially, the government also claimed that another reason to keep the warrant a secret from Trump was the risk that he might flee the country, but the government later retracted that reason, saying it had been mistakenly included. Tellingly, the court agreed with this reason, as well, before the prosecutors retracted it as a mistake.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The main reason is destroying evidence. This is a guy that would literally eat memos and flush paperwork down the toilet while in the white house.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You forgot that they (Trump's people, maybe Trump himself) repeatedly burnt government documents in the White House fireplaces.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

White House fireplaces

One of my favorite West Wing episodes

Mr. President, you know how you told me not to wake you unless the building is on fire?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I love that episode

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's one I haven't heard before. It's also something I'd believe.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

[White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows told White House staffers to keep some Oval Office meetings "close hold" during the transition period, potentially leaving meetings off the books [...]. [Mark Meadows' aide Cassidy] Hutchinson also testified that there "were certain things that had potentially been left off" the Oval Office diary. [...] Additionally, she told the committee that she saw Meadows burn documents in his office fireplace around a dozen times -- about once or twice a week -- between December 2020 and mid-January 2021.

Source

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh for sure, but if the judge thinks it's a possibility he could flee, that's interesting to me. I hope Smith gets that January court date and we'll know soon enough if he evades his secret service, lol.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

I and at least literally 'ones' of others figured he'd be off to Russia or more likely Saudi Arabia as soon as he left office because he was scared shitless of being thrown in jail.

Now, naturally I'm a bit pissed he hasn't been held, at least on the Jan 6th charges, if not the damn espionage act indictment. "Two-tiered" justice, indeed.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I had always hoped that Trump would try to escape to Russia. It would've been the icing on the shit cake.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hanging out with Steven Seagal, riding around shirtless with Putin 😂

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I always picture him flying off on a propeller helicopter gadget thing, laughing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

“Eat memos *covered in Big Mac™️ sauce”

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’ve been convinced for a while now that if Trump felt he was actually headed to jail his last desperate act would be to try to flee to North Korea to hide behind his crazy bestie Kim (who would absolutely love the drama of having an ex-POTUS as his puppet to parade around and try to shame the US with).

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nah, he'd go for Russia. Not enough diet Coke or well done-steaks with ketchup for Donnie in NK.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Maybe Saudi Arabia. Russia's too cold.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t doubt that Trump would want to go to Russia but Putin would never agree to that when he could have all the same benefits if Donnie was in NK and none of the negatives of having him in Russia. Kim is crazy enough that he wouldn’t care and would enjoy all the extra scrutiny and attention.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Kim isn't crazy. He was raised from birth believing he is the divine ruler of a people and received a modern education. He is acting in the best interests of the state he leads. It just happens that most of us on this platform likely live in a part of the world where those interests don't make sense or are hard to see or just don't seem important. But that's an "us" problem.

His public persona in the West is a combination of propaganda from multiple angles, much like we see around Russia and China, too.

I'm not saying that he is a good leader or has the health of North Koreans in mind, but be aware that not everything you hear about living in North Korea is necessarily accurate (and not necessarily due to outside actors, either).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Anyone believing they are a divine ruler has delusions, and can't operate in anyones best interest as he believes he has no peers

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You've convinced me North Korea is a secret paradise. Booking a flight now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Where did I say that?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How long would Trump actually survive if he lived in North Korea? Do they have McDonalds and Diet Coke?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You do know that just because a country is poor doesn't mean the upper crust can't scrounge enough money to buy a cheese burger right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Just look at Kim, does he look like a man who goes wanting?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I wonder why the prosecution team thought that was a "mistake", or if it was intentionally included and then retracted? Maybe it's standard language?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Not a lawyer but lawyers write draft arguments and then choose the ones they think are the best. It's possible they put the flight risk argument in a draft but ultimately decided to remove it, but then sent it out before actually removing it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I'm not a lawyer but my guess is that they didn't want a court fight about it when their best reason was enough.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

The "standard language" thing sounds right to me. A lot of court filings templates and attorneys just plug in the facts for their particular submission.

Which unfortunately reminds me of Mad Libs, and now this is all getting pretty absurd in my head

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think being under constant secret service protection would make it hard to flee the country. They'd have to go along with it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is that mandatory? Pretty sure it's a service offered to former Presidents, but Trump could probably just say no.

He hasn't (and probably won't) do that because he likes feeling important, and because he ain't paying for their services.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They can refuse it. Trump would be too scared to.