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Reposting this from here from 2023, after I stumbled across it tonight and it hits hard.

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I love my smart TV. I love the way it takes a long time to boot up because it’s trying to refresh the advertisements on the home screen. I delight in the way it randomly restarts because it’s downloaded an update without asking me, each of which makes the TV slower and slower with every subsequent install. I adore the way it buries the apps that I want to use, and that I use without fail every single time, below the apps that it’s being paid to promote and which I have never touched in my life and would never use without the cold metal of a glock pressed hard against my sweating temple. I am infinitely thrilled by the way the interface lags constantly, due to the need to have one thousand unnecessary animations rendered on hardware ripped wholesale from a ten year old phone. I feel myself borne aloft on wings of pure joy when I am notified that my data will be collected and analysed to determine my usage patterns. Even now I am writing this from a field of beautiful flowers and soft luscious grass as I lie and look up happily at the bright blue sky, smiling happily to know that this is the future of technology

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I honestly wonder how hard it would be to do a full lobotomy on a smart TV and if there would be a big enough market for that kind of service.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

best thing is to never hook 'em up to the internet. provided the manufacturers don't all start requiring internet to 'set up' a tv.

next best thing would be a revert of firmware or a full 'reset' of settings; if possible. to return it to an 'out of box' state--then above, never connect it to the internet.

replacing a cheap streaming device is a hell of a lot cheaper than replacing the tv once the software gets obsoleted for whatever reason.


my coworker (and boss, technically) just casually mentioned that her inlaws 'updated' their tvs when they were visting over the holidays. i cringed so fucking hard because i have the same model, just smaller--so i know what happens.

they had just recently hooked-up wireline internet and could actually stream stuff now.. so i had just given them a new streaming stick to use instead of connecting their now 3 year old tv to the wifi.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You'd still have the TVs default OS running on a potato. I'm thinking more along the lines of replacing that with a bare bones old school OS that was responsive.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

True, but a 3 year old TV with original firmware would have been pre-adpocalypse. My never-connected LG boots pretty quick when it was last on an HDMI port before turning off.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I have heard that some TVs attempt to connect to every WiFi they can find using default credentials even if you never connect it yourself

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

default credentials

Wifi doesn't have default credentials any more... These days, there's legislation (at least in California) that requires default passwords to be randomly generated, but it's recommended to have no default password at all (eg prompt the user for a password when setting up the device).

That's why some access points have the default password either printed on the box or on the bottom of the device.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

They'll just connect via yourneighbors' smart tv

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

provided the manufacturers don't all start requiring internet to 'set up' a tv

That's an important caveat. And it appears that increasingly manufacturers are adding that requirement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yup. I bought a roku tv last Nov for a spare bedroom. Thing would not operate without a wifi connection and roku account.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I have mine disconnected from the network, but a certain non-techie member of my household (who doesn't understand this stuff) keeps re-connecting it when they want Netflix to work, even though I've shown them how to do this without connecting the TV to the network.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago

I connected it once, then set it in the router as „enable child protection -> disable internet access“, gave it a static IP address and also blacklisted that address on my pi hole so that DNS won’t work for it. Then I immediately disconnected it. The router recognizes the TV with its MAC address when it gets reconnected and immediately bans internet access when it gets reconnected.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've set up mine to automatically start on a specific HDMI port, that fixed the issue for confused family members.

To find the feature though was not easy. Had to look up how to access the hotel mode hidden menu. Apparently LG has extra features it only wants hotels to be able to use.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Apparently LG has extra features it only wants hotels to be able to use.

It's more that hotels will buy in bulk if a TV has the features they want - and those "hotel mode" controls being hidden from typical hotel guests is one of those features.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Connect the TV to wifi, then go into your router's settings and block it. It's usually under "Access Control" or "Security".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

I have simply blocked internet access (but not local network access) for mine. I only use it for jellyfin and Nintendo Switch tho.