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Was reminded how Epstien not killing himself was/is so accepted yet it’s still a conspiracy theory. Is there any similar ones you guys believe to be completely true ?

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I agree. I think that he knew that Russia was going to attack Ukraine. (It is weird how trump got involved with Zelensky during that infamous phone call.)

Trump tried to get us (US) out of NATO so bad because then we would be free to use our military power in favor of Russia against Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Trump being on the ruzzian payroll is not a secret. He's a puppet.

When he was elected (with the help of russia), he was brougt into a dark smoke filled room that smelled like sigarettes and cheap vodka, with a dosen men was sitting behind their desks. He couldn't see any faces. No words said before Trump said: "what's my agenda?"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What I wouldn't do to have the transcripts of his private conversation with Putin that only one other US personnel, the interpreter, was allowed to attend. Just Putin, Trump, and the translator. No one else was allowed in other than Putins translator.

Try to tell me Putin wasn't giving orders or giving information to Trump that he expected Trump to use in Putins favor...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44883072

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I suspect that Trump's taking national classified documents included these documents. Trump classified these with the highest of secret classifications at the time to hide them, and he did not dare leave them for Biden to get his hands on.

If Biden's administration could still could get these transcripts, they could have been redacted to take out the sensitive parts and been declassified. We are likely to not have all the secret documents that Trump took, still.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I can't see a situation where the US would have actively supported Russia, but it's 100% believable that our support for Ukraine would be significantly muted if Trump were still president. And this would almost certainly also translate into reduced support from the rest of NATO.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I do not think that Putin would let Trump have that information. Trump would blab it, and Putin knows that he would.

Convincing Trump that America should realign with Russia to take down China (and Europe) a few notches is more likely. That was obvious when the Republican Party changed their platform concerning Russia back in the 2016 election. Putin still was being fed a bunch of BS by his intelligence agencies and thought that his little green men could again take over another small satellite country. If America had not started helping with training Ukrainians to defend their country, that would have been the outcome. Simply refusing to aid Ukraine would have been enough. Even our intelligence thought that Russia was a major military power at the time.