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I've been looking to move on from membrane keyboards and go mechanical, but no matter where I look literally every mech has some form of obnoxious RGB lighting on it. Are there any that just.. don't have it?

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

There are many, many non-RGB and even non-backlit keyboards. Where are you looking?

Try mechanicalkeyboards.com

Here is a basic mech kb with no added frills.
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/ducky-origin-black

Both of my own keyboards have the ability to disable the backlights—which is ideal, imo, so I can change my mind later.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Damn that Ducky Origin looks good! Wish there was an 80% option.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 59 minutes ago

Problem is I can't find them in nordic layout. Would also want cherry mx black. Oh well

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago

Damn I'm bad at searching, then. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why are the feet things on "basic" keyboards always on the wrong side?! I'm not a kid anymore. My wrists don't bend like that

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

… wut?

Do you want the keyboard angled down?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Technically, yes, a keyboard recessed and angled down+away from you would be the best ergonomics. Or tented, so the centre of the keyboard is raised while the left and right sides are flush with the desk, so that your wrists are rotated with palms facing each other. A lot of pro eSports players rotate their entire keyboards by 30-90° to better suit left wrist alignment, since the right hand only has to operate the mouse.

I'll die on this hill - the generic modern keyboard is absolutely terrible for your wrists, and is responsible for so many people having RSI!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But it's not anything modern. Typewriters have basically always had the row behind be higher than the row in front. You're supposed to float your wrist over the keyboard, or just get a wrist wrest if you're lazy.

https://thebenningtonnapa.com/cdn/shop/products/vintage-woodstock-typewriter-the-bennington-napa-valley_1440x.jpg?v=1629257891

https://i.rtings.com/assets/products/iCHTgoaB/ibm-model-m/ergonomics-large.jpg?format=auto

A lot of pro eSports players rotate their entire keyboards by 30-90° to better suit left wrist alignment

That's because they sit at their desks like goblins.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

Typewriters were not designed for ergonomics at all. They were made to make mechanical levers attached to the keys functional.

The up-angled keys are basically just a relic of mechanical design that people got used to. Like the QWERTY layout, which is also designed for mechanical function of a bunch of tiny levers swinging at a piece of paper, it's actually designed to slow down typing speed and is also terrible for ergonomics.

https://www.therevisionist.org/ergonomics/best-keyboard-tilt-for-reducing-wrist-pain-to-zero/

Negative tilt is the actual ergonomic position.

Much like QWERTY, keyboards are designed with positive tilt for no reason other than "it's always been that way" and "people got used to it"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

it’s actually designed to slow down typing speed

This is a myth

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago

In both the positive and nuetral tilt position they have their wrists on the table which nobody says is ergonomic. But in the negative position they actually have their wrists off the table.

If you float your wrists off the table (or just have a wrist rest) then you'll be at an actual ergonomic position. And the upward angle keeps the further back keys just a little bit closer to your fingers so you don't have to stretch for them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

I don't think that appealing typewriters as an authority on ergonomics is really a great move.