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I think that's where the reputation comes from. Overcooked broccoli is inedible, and I know people who refuse to leave any bite to it at all, which seems insane.
I feel like crunchy, fresh broccoli is a relatively new trend. I found out about it on my own, at my place as a kid it always looked like green boogers and tasted the way you imagine that would.
I think it used to have to be cooked to hell because in the past it legitimately didn't taste as good as it does now. Selective breeding has taken a lot of bitterness out of many vegetables.
It got cooked to hell because most people can't cook and that's what they know. If anything broccoli tasted the better in the 80s, because it wasn't as maximized for shipping.
I don't know, man, this was the 80s and 90s, it's not that long ago. It still tastes like I remember if you overcook it.
30-40 years is a lot of time to selectively breed vegetables.
Yeah, no, it's not that it isn't enough time, it's that I've been eating broccoli and beans all this time, I would have noticed.
I mean, we all noticed the tomatoes becoming water balloons, it's not like it'd be unheard of.
You wouldn't notice slight changes over decades. You'd need to do a side by side comparison to say for sure.
Like I said, we noticed with tomatoes and apples. And overcooked broccoli is still just as gross as it was in the 90s. One of very few foods that makes me gag instantly.
Also, we grow our own vegetables often, it's not like all my food comes out of a bag. We'd notice big changes, and we did notice the change in cooking styles around it. It's a generational argument in my family how to cook broccoli, not a change over time.
Vegetable breeders for the veggies that you get in a normal grocery store don't typically select for tastiness/flavor, they select for things that can maximize profits - hardiness, shipability, production, etc.
That and canned veggies. Don't know if it's because we were low income or if produce was just a lot more expensive back in the 80s and 90s. But, I remember eating a shit ton of canned "mixed vegetables" at my house and at friends houses.
My mom was a good cook, but I feel like we didn't get a lot of fresh veggies unless we were living on a military base where the groceries were subsidized.
My mom used to have a microwave cookbook and would make most veggies in the microwave oven. This cemented my love for crunchy cooked vegetables. I can't eat green beans in a restaurant because most of the time they are almost the consistency of porridge.