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Former CIA Director Leon Panetta warned that Trump’s return to the White House could embolden Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, giving him a "blank check" in the Middle East and increasing the risk of war with Iran.

Panetta expressed concern that Trump would support Netanyahu's aggressive stance against Iran without restraint, potentially worsening regional instability.

Panetta also predicted Trump might allow Russia to retain parts of Ukraine if he returns to office, though he doubted Trump’s negotiation skills.

He criticized Trump’s approach to foreign policy, suggesting Trump would be inclined to "capitulate" to authoritarian leaders, which may not sit well with some Republicans.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We stopped being status quo months ago. This is not normal. Biden had the power to make it go back to normal with a single phone call. Israel is America's proxy, not the other way around.

The genocide in Gaza is currently underway. So what's worse than a genocide? I'm honestly asking here. How does it get worse than this? Keep in mind there's also the war with Lebanon and the escalations with Iran to talk about as well.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A wider genocide. A nuclear war. American soldiers actively involved, essentially another iraq war. A US administration not seeking the relative calm of the past but a 2025 with NO Palestine, no Iran, no Yemen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

With all that Israel has been emboldened do you honestly believe they will stop with Gaza? What do you think their incursions into the West Bank or Lebanon have been about?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The domino pieces for a wider regional war has been falling consistently over the past 13 months. That's on Biden. He helped turn trhe middle east into a powder keg because he couldn't keep one of America's proxies in check. Whether or not Trump won would have been irrelevant. The escalations that are about to happen would have happened anyway due to the unconditional support for Israel by both the Democrats and Repbulicans.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I disagree that the rate, and overall scope are the same with Biden/Harris or trump. I'm contending, based on his admins own words, that things will accelerate faster, and end up worse with trump. I'm not suggesting things would be chill and peaceful with Harris.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The rate of a genocide matters very little. At the end of the day, a genocide is a genocide.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Huh? That's insane. We hope that an existing genocide is slower, obviously ideally slow = 0. More time for more lives for peace talks to bring it to an end.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What peace talks? The ones where Netanyahu actively sabotaged them and then gleefully kills more Palestinian kids? None of that is happening and the current rate is not a slow one. It was a slow one before Oct 7th.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

My guy, I'm not arguing that terrible genocide isn't happening. It's a hypothetical about how when people aren't dead, hypothetically ending the conflict can save their lives. This is why the rate matters.

You are latched on to minutia, when I'm suggesting a slower, hopefully stopped genocide is better than a sped up, expanded genocide.

If the genocide kills 1 person per year, that's better than one that kills 1,000,000 per year.

Because you are being very pedantic, let me be clear: I don't think what's happening now is close to 1. I don't claim 1 or 1,000,000 is the accurate number. It's an illustration.

Trumps team has made clear they want wider war. So WHATEVER is going on now is not enough for the trump team. Pick your number, pick your actors pick your locations. I'm not contesting any of it. I'm saying whatever you say is happening now, they want more.