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Josseli Barnica grieved the news as she lay in a Houston hospital bed on Sept. 3, 2021: The sibling she’d dreamt of giving her daughter would not survive this pregnancy.

The fetus was on the verge of coming out, its head pressed against her dilated cervix; she was 17 weeks pregnant and a miscarriage was “in progress,” doctors noted in hospital records. At that point, they should have offered to speed up the delivery or empty her uterus to stave off a deadly infection, more than a dozen medical experts told ProPublica.

But when Barnica’s husband rushed to her side from his job on a construction site, she relayed what she said the medical team had told her: “They had to wait until there was no heartbeat,” he told ProPublica in Spanish. “It would be a crime to give her an abortion.”

For 40 hours, the anguished 28-year-old mother prayed for doctors to help her get home to her daughter; all the while, her uterus remained exposed to bacteria.

Three days after she delivered, Barnica died of an infection.

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[–] [email protected] 313 points 17 hours ago (8 children)

there's another thread about outsiders' criticisms of lemmy, and one of the comments mentioned that it's "unwelcoming to right wing viewpoints"

I WONDER FUCKING WHY

[–] [email protected] 209 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

let's keep it that way, the right-wing should be unwelcome everywhere

[–] [email protected] 81 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

1000%. So long as right-wing equates to racist, seditious, traitorous bastards, then yeah...you're not welcome here or anywhere else in this country. Go find Jesus or something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 31 minutes ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Any amount of right wing will never sit well with me after trump. Things could flip and the conservatives could somehow be fighting for workers rights and I'd still side with the party that supports women's right to chose etc.

If lemmy became a right wing cess pool I'd be done with it in a heart beat. There are a lot of shit ideas on this platform and I do wish I could find my tribe but as much as I know of them, they are my people.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 14 hours ago

yeah, definitions are hard, but in general I tend to think of the right as promoting traditional hierarchy and the left as being egalitarian.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Most right wingers think their views are legitimate because the right wing exists as the direct opposition to the left. But i think that view is warped.

We need to start considering right wingers as extremists and not the opposition. They should be outliers on a spectrum where the left is much more central and the right is much more to the extreme right

|----------------------------------------left wing----‐-----center----------------------------------------right wing--------|

Like that

They think their views are as right as ours are left. If they were, they would likely be welcome here.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 14 hours ago

I don't really see what is wrong with authentically egalitarian politics, so I'm inclined to think the "center" is just a euphemism for right-wing.

If a left wing movement fails in its egalitarianism, like when the USSR had slave camps, then I think we should not think of that movement as left wing at all, it just fails the definition of being left wing.

The common response to this is that it is a form of no true scotsman fallacy, which I think could be a legitimate concern since you might define a left wing ideal as the definition and anything failing to live up to the perfection of that ideal is not "left". But on the other hand, I don't know how else to consider some politics authentically egalitarian and worth supporting and others inauthentic or corrupt and embodying hierarchical or right-wing tendencies. Maybe there is no bright line we can draw or reduce to a logical equation, but I would like to think there is still some value in evaluating which politics to support (i.e. which politics are furthering egalitarian means or ends).

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Right-wingers don't have viewpoints. Fascism is not a legitimate political position. It is a threat. We don't call a serial killer's propensity to kill a "viewpoint". Conservatives have motives, not viewpoints.

[–] [email protected] 106 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I wish the world was unwelcoming to right-wing viewpoints. This is the result and so many people are fine with it. It’s so depressing.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 16 hours ago

Unfortunately you'll have to get used to it and continue challenging them. The polycrisis is only going to get worse and the number of refugees from the impact of climate change and climate change related causes i.e. conflict from collapsing food / water access and / or failed states.

In the next 10 to 20 years life quality will peak and then will start collapsing over the next 50.

When that happens a significant cohort of the population will close ranks and want to "protect" those closest around them, the desire the ultra-rich have for isolation will continue to trickle down into the rich and remnants of the upper middle class as the wealth gap widens. In times of crisis this cohort pushes further and further right.

So keep working against these forces so we can get the rich to pay their fair share to fix these problems but be prepared to take up arms when the house of cards that is the relative stability we have now collapses.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 14 hours ago

> Talks against healthcare

> Wonders why nobody likes those speeches

[–] [email protected] 40 points 16 hours ago

Any space thats welcoming for me (a trans person) is unwelcoming to right wing viewpoints.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

Paradox of tolerance. They aren’t welcome because they tend not to play nice with others.

I feel genuinely bad for the non-facist conservatives, but today they’d be called leftist too, so I think it’s still fair to say it really shouldn’t be welcome anywhere because the term has become very extreme.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

"non-fascist conservatives" have spent the last 40 years obstructing and cozying up to fascists rather than play well with others. They knew what they were doing.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Or, to be as charitable as possible, they're useful idiots who are lazily unaware of how heinous the people they're blindly following are.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago

They're not exactly unaware, but only care for how it affects them. Anything heinous that happens to someone else is seen as completely irrelevant.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

This is how it works though, right? They keep ostracizing groups until they run out of out-groups to attack and the next round begins. The old inner circle is now the circle and a new inner circle is proclaimed, the new outgroup(s) are revealed, and the feeding frenzy continues.

This is what always baffles me about minorities that are staunchly Republican. They're actually voting for themselves to be put on the chopping block (just not right away)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 14 hours ago

This is exactly why fascism is ultimately self-defeating. The only question is how many people get hurt in the meantime.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 16 hours ago

They can stay on X.