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[–] [email protected] 46 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (4 children)

Also this doesn’t say anything about the Earth.

Plus you can give a liberal reading of the bible to be:

  1. god created the heaven and the earth. God created the heavenly bodies.
  2. God created the sky - earths atmosphere and climate
  3. God separates oceans - creates continental forms, and plant based life
  4. God creates the moon and sun and stars. This one seems out of order to me… maybe just the earth and solar system stabilize. I don’t know how pll ok ants exist without the sun, so maybe it’s microbes or something.
  5. God creates birds and sea creatures. Maybe birds are dinosaurs.
  6. God creates modern land animals, then creates man and woman. That makes sense, mankind is certainly new with only a few hundred thousand years of records before civilization starts.

That doesn’t have to imply the earth is 4000 years old. Even the original wording could be read as eon instead of day.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

The Bible is a couple thousand chapters long. The creation story is the first two chapters. It's pretty obviously only attempting to establish that God created the universe in some ambiguous way and move on with the story. That doesn't stop people from inferring all sorts of things from what is essentially a poem.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 hours ago

It's literally a poem in the original language.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

So you are saying when the Bible says Jesus died for our sins, it doesn't mean he actually died, it's only a metaphor.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I know it's tough to pay attention for four whole sentences but if you read them again slowly I think you'll see that I did not use the words Jesus, sin, or metaphor in any form which should make it pretty clear that, no, I'm not saying that at all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I cant believe you just said that Virgin Mary was an inside joke, and every one knew Mary, and like I mean knew her.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 minutes ago

The joke is inside Virgin Mary if you get my drift

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

You handwaved away glaring inaccuracy in what is purported to be the word of God with "it's just a few paragraphs before the story".

If you get to pick and choose what is truth, then anyone else can do it too.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

Even the original wording could be read as eon instead of day.

Most people don't know that the Hebrew word "yom" (day) can be and is used to denote wildly different lengths of time.

If anyone is interested you can read a fine destruction of the stupid "Young Earth" argument at the link I provided.

The "Young Earth" people, both Christian and Jew, are trying to shoe horn something into the Bible that doesn't fit and doesn't need to exist. It's nothing more than a desperate attempt to hold onto an old, wrong headed, and man-made theory.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

The excuse that the Hebrew word for day could mean an extremely long period of time doesn't work because plants and trees were created before the Sun and insects (pollinators).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Thanks for that

I don’t see why God must be incompatible with evolution or the Big Bang or really any of science. God created us to be clever, surely that includes using logic and science to learn about the world.

Personally I’m agnostic and I try not to judge people. I do judge people who dismiss science and decide faith alone is better.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago

I skimmed that link and it's pretty interesting, I'll have to spend more time on it. I definitely liked the part at the end about God being the observer in this context, so what's a day to him.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago

Simple answers for simple minds

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

The original wording can't be read as eon instead of a day because plants and trees could't last for an eon before the sun was created.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

These are perfect plants that do reverse photosynthesis, make sense now?