They just crossed the line. Very tight race in the end.
this post was submitted on 21 Oct 2024
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And just like all of those votes, it wouldn’t be so close if it weren’t for a certain country that begins with “Russi” and ends with “a”
While Russia certainly helped move things in one direction, both the Brits and the Americans have to take full responsibility for the messes they created, in order to get out of them. if it wasnt for Russian interference, they would still be divided, just slightly tipping the other way round.
Polling in the UK has indicated that the populace thinks leaving the EU was a poor choice for a long time.
Even people who voted Brexit, at the time, were mostly in favour of having a strong relationship with the EU by staying in the customs union. Most even thought freedom of movement was a fair price to pay for a close trading relationship.
It was only in the months after that Brexiteers became more and more separated from reality... their words went from "we can have a relationship like Norway, who isn't an EU member" to "let's ignore the EU and completely cut them off". Because that's what happens when you give right wing populists an inch. They will then take a mile.
It should also be noted that the UK is far from alone in this. Around the time of the 2015/2016 Syrian refugee crisis, anti-EU sentiment was at a high all over the union. The UK was only the 2nd-4th most anti-EU country in the union, depending on the study. If more countries had a referendum, more would've left.
Each and every country in the west seems to have a sizable populist far right movement. In some countries they've even been getting into government recently.
Disinformation sucks, but ultimately it also comes down to the individual. I get blasted by this shit on a daily basis too and I still can be reasonable where it counts.
The Russi Brothas? They made that superhero movie right? The one with Thanus?