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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Side note: it really irks me that almost every ABC article has "allegedly" somewhere in the title.

I get they're all paranoid about being sued, but this isn't alleged, a kid was ACTUALLY stabbed. That can't be disputed, and you can't be sued for defamation for claiming that something that actually happened, happened.

For some people it's "POV:". For me it's "allegedly this situation that very obviously happened, happened".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The headline on the article page is (currently) "Boy, 16, fatally stabbed at shopping centre in Melbourne's west", so I don't know why the share-preview headline has 'allegedly'

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Thanks z! I've updated the title

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Not in the title, but "allege" and it's variants are used eight times in the article.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It is journalistic good practice, and not merely fear of defamation suits.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Negative, it is poor journalistic practice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

https://www.smh.com.au/national/alleged-crimes-and-obscured-identities-how-does-crime-reporting-work-20210302-p5772w.html

Your layman opinion on this is really worthless, the media industry and media standards agree that it is good practice.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

For legal reasons they have to use alleged until court proceedings make a judgement officially or it becomes defamatory.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How is it defamatory? It's not defamatory. It doesn't accuse a specific person of stabbing anyone, and a situation can't be defamation. Unless shopping centres or suburbs can sue for defamation, in which case, they still couldn't, because it objectively happened.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Because it hasn’t been tried in court and an official ruling hasn’t been made.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/alleged-crimes-and-obscured-identities-how-does-crime-reporting-work-20210302-p5772w.html#

There are technicalities to the legal system, if you name them as a murderer and the case was acquitted or a different outcome came of it from the court ruling you have just named them a murderer when technically they weren’t and you have defamed them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Yes, but in regard to the title, nobody was accused, therefore nobody can sue for defamation.