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Zelenskyy will present ‘victory plan’ to US president during trip to Washington next week, when he is also likely to hold talks with Trump

Volodymyr Zelenskyy has urged Joe Biden to allow Ukraine to carry out long-range strikes inside Russia with US-supplied weapons, and to earn “a place in history” by “strengthening Ukraine” before he leaves office.

Speaking before a crucial trip next week to Washington, where he will meet Biden and the US vice-president and presidential nominee, Kamala Harris, and address the UN, Zelenskyy said he would present a “victory plan” to end the war.

His vision for a “just peace” has not been made public. But in a media briefing with the Observer in Kyiv, Zelenskyy said it involved carrying out deep strikes with western missiles inside Russia – something London and Washington have so far refused.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah, seems reasonable. The front lines have proven to be extremely difficult to move once they get set in place, and Russia is provably completely fine with a couple hundred thousand of their Expendables dying every year.

Ending this war quickly definitely requires knocking out other aspects of the russian war machine, anyone should be able to see that. I'm not enough of a military man to tell you WHICH aspects have to be knocked out, but I'd believe those elements are inside Russia in a heartbeat.

Let's just not go and talk about hitting any major population centers though. Collateral damage is not justice, even if the russian brass have absolutely gleefully been hitting population centres as much as possible. Justice for that is seeing them hanged, not hitting some people that had no real say in all this.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Believe me, I don't want any russian civilians hit with missiles either, and the people that say they do either overexaggerate their emotional response or are pro-russian trolls arguing in bad faith. We've gotta be better than the fuckwads on the other side playing point and click adventure with our cities.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I'm not enough of a military man to tell you WHICH aspects have to be knocked out, but I'd believe those elements are inside

Nor am I, but I suspect that list would have to include every known Rusian military installation.

And given that all of Nato's member countries information gathering agencies will have been working for decades to identify those, the list should be fairly complete.