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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm mostly going to talk about Lemmy here as you mention the Reddit fiasco.

but were absolutely afraid to grow

We were not afraid to grow, the instances did not even exist when Reddit disabled the API. LW, lemm.ee, sh.itjust.works were all created around the time of the Reddit announcement.

Until today, the discourse reeks of elitism with the “I don’t redditors here”

New joiners getting welcome by people on Lemmy

Which examples do you have of what you stated above?

Bluesky has focused on building a product that can be used by the masses

BlueSky got 8 millions from investors, expecting Lemmy, Mbin or Piefed so have the same level of development is unrealistic: https://techcrunch.com/2023/07/05/bluesky-announces-its-8m-seed-round-first-paid-service-custom-domains/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

For every "welcome" post, you can find 10 other comments that amount to "I left Reddit because their users are toxic/suck/stupid".

One of the biggest complaints about the Reddit mirrors is "if I wanted to see Reddit content, I'd go to Reddit".

Go check the posts about Fediverser, see how many people are opposed to it on the grounds of "I don't want to bring more people here".

BlueSky got 8 millions from investors, expecting Lemmy, Mbin or Piefed so have the same level of development is unrealistic:

So now you understand why it matters to value the work of developers?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

For every “welcome” post, you can find 10 other comments that amount to “I left Reddit because their users are toxic/suck/stupid”.

I provided examples, you did not, but okay.

One of the biggest complaints about the Reddit mirrors is “if I wanted to see Reddit content, I’d go to Reddit”.

The biggest complaints about mirrors were that they were posted by bots which

do not filter content, so they repost the same karma farming posts than the ones from Reddit
never answer back (obviously), which makes no sense for communities where people are sharing experiences

Go check the posts about Fediverser, see how many people are opposed to it on the grounds of “I don’t want to bring more people here”.

I had a look at the most recent one, most of its discussion derailed about the correct usage of downvotes: https://lemmy.world/post/18249058

I had a look at another one (https://aussie.zone/post/12244073 ), it just seemed like the admins didn't want to have to manage additional software. They are still struggling with federation (https://aussie.zone/post/13429731 ), so that's probably on their priority

Older posts from a year ago aren't probably reflective on how people feel about the topic today, a lot of the people left and joined in the meantime

So now you understand why it matters to value the work of developers?

I never denied that having massive financial investment would improve software.

What I said is that it is unrealistic to expect the Lemmy userbase to raise the same amount than investors looking for the next Twitter (and I stand by that point).

Thinking about it, it's interesting that no other company tried to create a new Reddit, in the same way BlueSky did for Twitter. Probably because forums are less profitable than microblogging.