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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (4 children)

once a nuke launches, it's over for all of us

No, it really isn't. Nuclear winter and the idea of thousands of Tsar Bombas belongs to the 70s. Even in an all out nuclear war today using the full (working? - doubtful regarding Russia) arsenals it would be a catastrophe with hundreds of thousands of dead but mostly we'd be continuing on as before afterwards.

I grew up during "duck and cover" and iodine in the cupboard. That's not where we are anylonger.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

If life taught me anything it is that all you need to do is hide under your desk, duck, and cover. You can survive anything from a tornado to nuclear holocaust with that one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Also rockets are a pain to maintain, theres a reason the US military is trying to move away from the minutemen over towards gravity controlled nukes. Does anyone think Russia can properly maintain theirs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Uhhh I’m not trusting nobody named vault dweller about this particular topic

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Its the fact that my name is vault dweller and not thw fact that my picture is of the Mer remover Pelinal Whitestake.

Anyways my name is a reference to Fallout one which is a lot more depressing about the whole apocalypse thing, tonally its probably closer to a boy and his dog. I dont fear the bomb but I aint welcoming it either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Totally. I was just being silly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Fair 'nough I just woke up from a shitty nap so my humor is kinda non existent.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So you're saying if the Russians struck Manhattan it would be relatively little impact. You think of the ten thousand nukes the US and Russia have on average will kill less than a hundred people. Or if just Russia, less than two hundred people per.

I think each nuke is tens of thousands of immediate deaths followed by hundreds of thousands of mid to long term radiation fatalities. If we pretend that 25% of their 5000 or so nukes works, that's still 1250 nukes. If each nuke of that 1250 works and kills 100,000 each, that's 125 million people. I don't think this is so far fetched given that a little over 80% of Americans live in urban areas.

I just don't know how a society can recover if the majority of it's urban centers gets nuked and there is residual radiation there for the foreseeable future. Japan recovered because the nukes were small and there was only two sites, and that still caused about 110,000 casualties.

How many submarines do you think they have in the Atlantic and Pacific with nuclear strike capabilities? How many nukes do you think are in range of major north american cities?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Most nukes are targeted at the other side's nukes. Those aren't in population centers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Uh, my state would like a word about that....

https://www.kuow.org/stories/the-secret-history-of-nukes-in-washington-state

Puget Sound is home to around one-third of the nation’s active nukes.

For those unaware, Puget Sound contains the largest cities in Washington as well as many dense suburbs.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What?

You really need to look up the yields of modern ones compared to what's been used...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Have you? Or have you fallen for russian influence operations?

The ~1500 or so nuclear weapons Russia and the USA have in active service each are mostly much smaller tactical nukes compared to the insane my-dick-is-bigger-than-yours stuff that happened in the 60s.